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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: TigerClaws

BS

>I got Trump elected President.

Gee, It thought it was the voters.... Could you please enlighten us as to how you did that?

>I’ve broken a dozen national stories - you’ve read them.

And those stories (with a proven link to your personally breaking them) are:


341 posted on 10/05/2017 9:15:02 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Iscool

I thought that first round of firing was 100 shots and he was aiming at the airplane fuel tank.

I still think the fuel tank shots might have been from the gun rising. Ever shot an automatic? Friend of mine has a license and they’re a pain to keep down unless you do short bursts. There’s video (Live Leak) of a girl killing someone firing an auto as she loses control when it goes up.


342 posted on 10/05/2017 9:15:29 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: justa-hairyape

I hope it is bs, too.

Think of events where there are large crowds - concerts, sporting events, graduation ceremonies, churches.

We are nearing a point where proper security for ANY large outside event needs to have police snipers.


343 posted on 10/05/2017 9:17:47 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Strac6

Trump got elected because hundreds of thousands of voters found out about what a few weeks before the election?

Spirit Cooking. 100,000 churches read about that and many black Christian voters stayed home rather than vote for Hillary because of it. Ditto Pizzagate.

The left has weaponized the conspiracy theory of Russiagate to attack Trump and his team mercilessly since the election.

Where’d they get that idea?

From us.


345 posted on 10/05/2017 9:20:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Keyhopper
Those are probably doubled to be more insulated

The glass sheets are laminated and glued to a film in between to prevent the glass from breaking apart and falling on someone if the glass does get shattered...Like a car windshield...

346 posted on 10/05/2017 9:20:06 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: CaptainCarrollton

That’s a good point. He had a lot of cash and connections outside the country.

The Sheriff refused to elaborate on the escape plan.

What went wrong? Police got to the floor in 11 minutes. Or did he have a falling out with an accomplice and the accomplice turn him into the Patsy?


347 posted on 10/05/2017 9:21:13 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Iscool

I read a glazer on 4chan who said that the tempered interior glass should have shattered all over the hotel room floor. Any truth to that? Because you don’t see it in the photos...


348 posted on 10/05/2017 9:22:15 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

What has Soros Management Fund been doing with MGM Resorts...


349 posted on 10/05/2017 9:26:01 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

This was posted by me here and youtube removed it.

it’s GRAPHIC / DEAD BODIES BLOOD GRAPHIC aftermath from the shooting:

https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/las-vegas-shooting-little-gore-180737/


350 posted on 10/05/2017 9:28:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
He may have a scoop, but he dont know much about physics. Quote below.

There was definitely a 2nd shooter, if you watch the video w/cab driver you can hear the differences in the shots locations.

351 posted on 10/05/2017 9:28:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: bushpilot2

there is a 4 Seasons hotel inside of the Mandalay Bay hotel?


352 posted on 10/05/2017 9:30:22 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: All
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353 posted on 10/05/2017 9:30:54 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Above is the New York Times ....


354 posted on 10/05/2017 9:31:10 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bushpilot2

Dubai World lost billions and billions investing with MGM Resorts..


355 posted on 10/05/2017 9:31:23 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Strac6

Awfully full of himself, isn’t he. Would LOVE to see how he got Trump elected.

I’ve received numerous private messages about his mental issues and delusions of grandeur.


356 posted on 10/05/2017 9:31:37 PM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: TigerClaws
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357 posted on 10/05/2017 9:31:52 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: All

So just today they executed a SEARCH WARRANT (remember the Sheriff said we have to follow the Constitution and worry about defense lawyers) and found Paddock’s SUV:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-police-say-stephen-paddocks-suv-found/

If the man’s dead, why follow these procedures unless there are...

WAIT FOR IT

YOU GUESSED IT

.... other suspects.

More than one perp = conspiracy of a criminal nature.

So tell us again this is a theory only?


358 posted on 10/05/2017 9:34:46 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bushpilot2

We entered an age when corporations and political entities can manipulate citizens to commit acts like Las Vegas.


359 posted on 10/05/2017 9:37:13 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: TigerClaws
The Sheriff refused to elaborate on the escape plan.

What went wrong? Police got to the floor in 11 minutes. Or did he have a falling out with an accomplice and the accomplice turn him into the Patsy?

There is speculation on 4chan and other forums that Paddock's escape plan was UP, not down.

The Four Seasons Hotel sits on top of Mandalay Bay and occupies the top floors of the building.

That hadn't occurred to me before, but it is interesting to contemplate.

The Sheriff said the evidence is that he had an escape plan. Mark Furhman speculated that police may have found a bug-out bag there.

The problem I had been having was how was he planning to escape? Was this 64-year-old guy with allergies planning to run down 32+ flights of stairs to the garage before police started coming up the stairwells?

But if he had to only go up a few flights to the Four Seasons, there might have been a plan that a second person would be there, perhaps an employee or someone else, to take him in. He could listen to the police scanner and only had to beat the cops by a couple of minutes if his plan was to escape up, not down.

I'm still troubled by the door being ajar when the security guard came upon the scene. It was not noise from shooting, but the door being ajar that keyed the security guard's interest in that room. So Paddock must have already stopped shooting out the window when the security guard stepped onto 32.

The two logical possibilities to my mind are (1) a second person ran out early, possibly up a few floors to the Four Seasons to position himself for Paddock's escape, ahead of the security guard and police getting there and left the door open or (2) Paddock was literally with bug-out bag in hand with the door open about to leave when the security guard came upon it.

360 posted on 10/05/2017 9:42:37 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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