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To: fwdude
I don't believe the Constitution makes a distinction. If a penalty is levied, than a conviction of a breach of law is in play. And a conviction must be adjudicated by trial by either a judge or a jury, not a tribunal.

Then should every illegal alien caught by the authorities be accorded a jury trial? Every speeding driver? The Courts have long upheld the rights of states to restrict or deny jury trials under certain circumstances like misdemeanor crimes or civil offenses.

I don't know where you live...

I live in Missouri.

... but in my state, speeding and other traffic violations are criminal offences and the defendant has a right to a jury trial, even in a municipal case.

And how many times have you seen that happen?

34 posted on 10/04/2017 12:46:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

- Illegal aliens are NOT citizens are are not entitled to the same rights and privileges as citizens.

- No court can deny the constitutional right to a trial by jury legally.

- Although traffic violations of any type can be tried in a court by jury, relatively few do when the overwhelming evidence is against the accused. That it doesn’t happen often doesn’t bolster your argument.


35 posted on 10/04/2017 12:51:09 PM PDT by fwdude (The perverted left-bound train is always accusing the train station of "moving right.")
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