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Marine Corps CH-53 Sea Stallion training at Fort Huachuca
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | Tanja Linton, media relations officer for the Fort Huachuca Public Affairs Office

Posted on 10/03/2017 5:46:35 AM PDT by SandRat

FORT HUACHUCA — Fort Huachuca supports the Marine Aviation Weapons and Tactics Squadron One's training exercise here 6:30-8:30 p.m., Oct. 6. The exercise is conducted annually in April and October as the final training event for CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters based in Yuma.

During the exercise, CH-53s fly into Libby Army Airfield and Hubbard Landing Zone. Marines exit the helicopters, secure selected areas and return to their aircraft. On LAAF, the group conducts a Forward Air Refueling Point event, refueling a couple of the helicopters from a KC-130. This is done while the aircraft's engines are on. Additionally, several C-130s and F/A-18s will provide overhead support.

The exercise ends with all helicopters and the KC-130 departing LAAF within the two-hour window.

Efforts are made to reduce the noise footprint of the helicopters crossing Huachuca City to the East Range, however residents in this area will hear the CH-53s flying in formation to and from the East Range.

While the exercise is being conducted, LAAF will close the airfield. A Notice to Airmen will be published to alert all local pilots and others intending to fly in during this time period. This provides a safe training environment and protects General Aviation from a military exercise.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: airfield; army; huachuca; libby
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1 posted on 10/03/2017 5:46:36 AM PDT by SandRat
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Too little water in Tombstone for Marine choppers.....


2 posted on 10/03/2017 5:50:41 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Isn’t the Sea Stallion designed to land in water? Not much water there!


3 posted on 10/03/2017 5:59:02 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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Marine Veteran Heard Shots, Stole Pickup Truck, and Started Saving Lives in Las Vegashttps://www.thedailybeast.com/marine-veteran-heard-shots-grabbed-pickup-truck-and-took-vegas-victims-to-safety


4 posted on 10/03/2017 6:15:28 AM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: SandRat

Good info on Sea Stallion http://en.avia.pro/blog/vertolyot-sikorsky-ch-53-sea-stallion-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki-foto


5 posted on 10/03/2017 6:21:06 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: street_lawyer

He’s still following out the code of never leave wounded behind.


6 posted on 10/03/2017 6:27:11 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Can’t wait to see some video. Think DVIDs will have it?


7 posted on 10/03/2017 8:30:08 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: street_lawyer

This could be shared on its own thread. Many, many, many heroes in this here nation of ours. They need to be recognized and their stories told to our young boys for the seed of truth about who they really are to be planted.


8 posted on 10/03/2017 8:39:35 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: reg45
Yeah, but I believe most, if not all, helos can be fitted with some sort of flotation devices.

IIRC, NYC started requiring at a minimum, the inflatable styles on those operating within the city.

Obviously, the operators would prefer not to waste fuel carrying the weight-and-drag contributing devices.

I guess there was at least one too many that had mechanical problems, and safely, but fatally, landed in one of the rivers.

9 posted on 10/03/2017 8:44:58 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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I doubt it, it might cat a favorable light on Veteran.


10 posted on 10/03/2017 9:04:42 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: huldah1776

great Chopper site http://en.avia.pro/blog/vertolyot-sikorsky-ch-53-sea-stallion-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki-foto


11 posted on 10/03/2017 9:07:52 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Thanks. Now I HAVE to look for a video.


12 posted on 10/03/2017 9:52:00 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: reg45

LOL, I never heard of one landing on water, except by accident or emergency!

I can’t imagine one of those setting down on water. They look like they could...but don’t think they do.

Great helicopter, though.


13 posted on 10/03/2017 9:53:16 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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They can absolutely set down on water, with nothing other than the equipment they come with. Many other helicopters are designed to be amphibious, out of the box. Chinooks and Sea Kings, for example, regularly set down on water as part of their normal operations. And this is not hovering right at the surface, mind you -- this is completely afloat, engines off, like a boat. Not a very good boat, to be sure! But they can definitely land on water.

They are BIG aircraft, though -- some good pictures here (click the "Images" tab).
14 posted on 10/03/2017 11:53:08 AM PDT by daltec
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I have seen a Sea King do that once, and as I recall it rolled over and sank!

I know the fuselage on those things are supposed to be watertight, but I can’t recall even seeing a picture of one doing it-that said, I defer to you, since you sound like you have experience in that area...:)


15 posted on 10/03/2017 12:17:55 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: daltec
Heh, my curiousity was burning, and I did find one video of a CH-53 actually in the water, but it looked like it was taken back in the early 1960's of what looked like an extremely early model...I know the SEAL teams have them hover low and they drive up the ramp, but I have a sneaking suspicion that demonstration of a Sea Stallion actually being a Sea Stallion was one of the few times you will actually see one set down in the water!
16 posted on 10/03/2017 12:28:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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No experience as a pilot or rotorcraft engineer, but I work with a lot of people who do have that sort of experience.

If you look at pictures of the fuselage of an H-3 Sea King, you will see that it has a little "keel." Those big sponsons are also not just to hold the landing gear -- they help keep the aircraft upright in the water.

I am sure they are very ungainly boats -- the H-53s as well -- but they are indeed designed to be amphibious. Just do a google image search for sh-3 on water and you will see plenty of pix of Sea Kings, rotors stopped, bobbing along like nobody's business haha! Here also is a floating H-53. The image caption calls it an H-3 but it is definitely a 53. They are also calling it an echo model and I think it's a D!
17 posted on 10/03/2017 3:30:03 PM PDT by daltec
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Actually, you know what, I just noticed that the caption says “Jolly Green Giant,” so in that case the aircraft in this image is an H-3 variant, not a 53. I guess I should trust the Air Force to caption their own pictures properly! My mistake!


18 posted on 10/03/2017 3:35:01 PM PDT by daltec
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Yes...it just seems like a bad idea to put those things down on the water!
19 posted on 10/03/2017 5:21:17 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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Oh, no argument there! Let me ask around — I will check with some pilots of those types of aircraft and let’s see what they say. For that matter, there are several Freeper helicopter pilots, I wonder what they think. Let me get back to you in a bit. But I bet they will all agree that they’d prefer not to be anywhere near water, if they can help it!


20 posted on 10/04/2017 10:19:05 AM PDT by daltec
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