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Las Vegas Shooting Suspect - Steven Craig Paddock (finally, truth)
The Last Refuge ^ | 10-2-17 | Sundance

Posted on 10/02/2017 3:26:23 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich

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To: surroundedbyblue; Aria

And just for the record, Australia did not ban guns in the late 1990s. It introduced a bunch of regulation that hadn’t existed before that makes it harder to own certain types of firearms, certainly, but the idea that there was a ban is overstating things quite dramatically. There are millions of legally held guns in private hands in Australia - more than there were before the laws changed (although the number did decline following those changes, it has climbed steadily since).


201 posted on 10/02/2017 6:13:14 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: JosephW

Thanks. Hard to believe that the woman named as Paddocks
companion or whatever is not involved.


202 posted on 10/02/2017 6:15:20 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: americas.best.days...
Am I misremembering, or did the McVeigh, Nichols group have some connection to Philippines or Indonesia?

Filipino chicks force men to go on shooting sprees? Maybe, but Art Bell hasn't gone on a spree yet.

203 posted on 10/02/2017 6:19:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: csvset
Sam Hyde aka Samir Al-Hajib or Samir Al- Hajeed.

OMG. THAT MANIAC. HE DID IT AGAIN!

204 posted on 10/02/2017 6:23:51 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Paddock apparently owns a home in Reno as well as Mesquite,


205 posted on 10/02/2017 6:25:13 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Pretty sure I said nothing remotely close to that.

But you did.


206 posted on 10/02/2017 6:29:16 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: PROCON

Not sure about that. A caller to Rush’s show today had a
BRILLIANT thought. Already the Las Vegas killer was not linked to radical Islam. The caller questioned the rush to judgment, when Trump has been investigated for months regarding a Russian connection to his election. That requires great research, but the killer can be cleared right away.


207 posted on 10/02/2017 6:32:36 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: americas.best.days...

It was a joke! I forgot the sarc tag. I forget it’s always necessary to put it on there or else people take even the most absurd statements seriously.


208 posted on 10/02/2017 7:01:02 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

HA! okee doke!!!


209 posted on 10/02/2017 7:21:43 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: squarebarb

I-95 runs from Miami to Canada. It’s the major interstate highway on the East Coast.


210 posted on 10/02/2017 7:38:34 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: naturalman1975

Thank you so much for your reply. I wanted to know the results in Australia because I don’t discount anything without first analyzing the facts. Will provide your post to my co-worker.

Do you know how the law was changed after Port Arthur?


211 posted on 10/02/2017 7:52:28 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Windflier

More about how and why ISIS does not normally and randomly claim responsibility for mass killings.

“The vast majority of the Islamic State’s claimed attacks were undertaken by men acting in its name, often after leaving short video statements confirming their intentions.

“A false claim of credit in Las Vegas will effectively shred the Islamic State’s news agency’s credibility. It will become a news agency that was once reliable, and now associates itself indiscriminately with heavily armed crazy people in casinos. I see little advantage in such a shift. When Amaq claims an attack, it makes itself hostage to the facts that are revealed in the follow-up investigation.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/


212 posted on 10/02/2017 8:01:08 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
“A false claim of credit in Las Vegas will effectively shred the Islamic State’s news agency’s credibility."

As if ISIS has any credibility to begin with.

You're a good man, Jim, but this is a load of hogwash.

213 posted on 10/02/2017 8:10:41 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Aria
Do you know how the law was changed after Port Arthur?

In simple terms, the main changes made after Port Arthur involved making the laws across Australia reasonably consistent (most firearms law in Australia is state law not Commonwealth (Federal) law but an agreement was signed between the state to try and ensure a greater consistency.

Universal licencing and registration became the law across the country (it was already law in most states before this), and you now had to have different types of licences for different types of guns, rather than a simple firearms licence (again, some states had already required this). In particular, a large number of semi-automatic weapons that had been able to obtain on a normal licence, now required a higher level licence which was harder to get.

Basically the most common gun licence in Australia (which is quite easy to get as long as you don't have a criminal record) is what is called a Category A/B licence. That allows you to own non semi-automatic long arms. Basic semi-automatics require a Category C licence and that's harder to get - not impossible, but it takes some work to do it and you have to provide a specific reason you need a C licence rather than just an A/B licence. Handguns also require a special licence - Category H. Again, you can get one but again you have to provide a specific reason you need a H licence and 'self defence' is not accepted as a valid reason by itself.

More powerful semi-automatics or automatic weapons are Category D or E, and most people will find it extremely difficult to get a D licence, and virtually impossible to get an E.

All weapons must be registered. All must be securely stored when not in active use. And you need to make a specific application to purchase any new weapon. The application is likely to be granted if you are licenced for the weapon, but it delays things and makes it far more complicated than it needs to be.

214 posted on 10/02/2017 8:11:44 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

This is quite interesting. One thing I have found alarming is that this “ordinary person” had so many guns.

Without really knowing I imagine Australia is simpler to manage than the US - people I know who have gone there and managed to have business there, have said it was like the US in the 50s or 60s.

Perhaps we should look at what has worked regarding massacres in Australia.


215 posted on 10/02/2017 8:41:35 PM PDT by Aria
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To: rxsid
seems very similar to the Dallas police killings, sure seems like the perp in that case was propped up also:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/police-officers-killed-dallas-shooting

216 posted on 10/02/2017 8:48:37 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Windflier

Uh, I don’t think so. I’ve seen a lot of what appeared to be terrorist attacks with not a word from ISIS. I’ve actually been surprised. I would think they would want people to think they’re behind everything but from I’ve seen they don’t do that. The article could reasonably partly explain why.


217 posted on 10/02/2017 9:21:23 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: CincyRichieRich
Anyone know if Nevada has "party" registration for voting?
Usually the Drive By Media immediately try to claim any shooters are Republican.
Since this isn't the case in Las Vegas, I suspect they already know he is a Democrat and are suppressing that fact.
Probably a Bernie supporter that has been watching too much CNN and PMSNBC.
218 posted on 10/02/2017 10:05:43 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: HP8753

“... anyone know if ...”
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I’m pretty sure someone does.
Google maybe?


219 posted on 10/02/2017 10:13:56 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: redgolum

It was an eyewitness who said police vehicles were surrounding a house in Mesquite. No media were there. It was not Paddock’s place. The eyewitness has lived in Mesquite for 23 years. Again, small, small township, no media was present.

Maybe the guys who sold the firearms to Paddock.


220 posted on 10/03/2017 1:25:26 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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