21 minutes in, Buckley schools Hef on the truth that ‘the separation of church and state’ wasn’t in the original Constitution but was an invention of a Supreme Court a few years earlier. LOL.
Buckley also points out that “merely because you have an appetite is not an excuse for giving in to it and I understand the Playboy philosophy is saying it is a, would lead to a kind of a neurotic repression...at which point Hef says, “Freud said that!” and then Buckley points out, “Well,no he didn’t exactly” but that “in the first place he was a very orthodox monogamist, what Freud said was understand what you are doing to yourself” to which Hef then changes the subject and ignores the statement.