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Trump's tax plan is ALREADY in trouble with his own party as plan to axe state(T)
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 9/29/2017 | David Martosko

Posted on 09/29/2017 9:59:24 AM PDT by rktman

As President Trump prepares to sell his tax plan to the nation's manufacturing lobby on Friday, his best-laid tax plans have already drawn objections from some fellow Republicans who are fuming over the decision to end deductions for state and local income taxes.

The situation will pit the White House against members of Congress from states that pile high income taxes on top of what the federal government takes from paychecks.

High-income Californians, for instance, pay as much as 13.3 per cent of their income to the state in addition to their federal taxes. New Yorkers can pay up to 8.82 per cent.

Just seven U.S. states have no personal income taxes, including Texas, Florida and Nevada

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; statetaxes; trumptaxplan
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To: Mr. K
So there shouldn't be any sales tax either? Because that's a tax on money I spend that has already been income taxed.

This "double taxation" meme that is brought up whenever a change in taxation is proposed is getting real tiresome.

21 posted on 09/29/2017 10:12:11 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Mr. K

Why not remove it. Why should the rest of the country subsidize the liberal states that have the highest taxes. They vote in liberals who raise their taxes and there is little outcry because they can take them off their federal taxes — thus making the rest of us subsidize them. I think it is a great idea. The figure of $1.3 trillionover 10 years has been thrown out there that the Feds would recover — that’s $1.3 trillion that others are subsidizing states, especially liberal states.


22 posted on 09/29/2017 10:13:48 AM PDT by falcon99
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To: rktman
Why should the taxpayers of New Hampshire (no income tax *or* sales tax) be subsidizing people in New York,California and other states with obscene tax rates?
23 posted on 09/29/2017 10:14:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: rktman
So, even CA GOP expect taxpayers in KS pay extra tax so they can deduct their higher state and local taxes.

TX has no income tax and GOP expect them to pick up the slack so NY and NJ taxpayers can deduct their high state income taxes from their tax bills, huh?

What's so fair about that?

24 posted on 09/29/2017 10:14:38 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: rktman

There should be NO deductions for ANY taxes . . .income, sales, real estate

Other taxpayers should not have to subsidize high tax states, nor homeowners

Cut the rates for everyone and drop these deductions. Also get rid of the EITC which is laced with fraud


25 posted on 09/29/2017 10:14:38 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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To: rktman

People in high tax states need to take it up with their Governor and state legislatures.


26 posted on 09/29/2017 10:15:12 AM PDT by trublu
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To: rktman

Have McCain and Collins Come out against this yet...


27 posted on 09/29/2017 10:15:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: gspurlock

We also have sky high property taxes!


28 posted on 09/29/2017 10:16:02 AM PDT by tatown
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Too many people would be out of work. Everyone pays 10, 15, 18 percent or what ever number the decide on and it’s all done. No nothing. They take it and do whatever. No deductions or special dispensations for anything. One and done.


29 posted on 09/29/2017 10:17:24 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Mr. K
"I can’t imagine why on earth they would remove the state tax deduction."

In Trump's plan, all sorts of deductions are eliminated.

To those of us who live in low-tax states, it certainly seems that deductions for high state income taxes in effect subsidize liberal socialist states like California, New York, etc.

If you think your state's income tax is too high, you work to get it reduced, don't ask me to help you pay it.

30 posted on 09/29/2017 10:17:49 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: DoodleDawg

As I heard it explained, real estate tax on your first home and charitable taxes would be deductible but second homes, vacation homes, cars, boats, etc. taxes are not now nor will they be if changed.


31 posted on 09/29/2017 10:18:17 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Jim Robinson

Here’s hoping - seems like the GOPe/RINOs, who were so quick to cave to so many Dem demands are now going the “all-or-nothing” route to insure as little as possible gets done.


32 posted on 09/29/2017 10:19:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: rktman

It’s too bad that New York and California will have to deal with their HUGE STATE TAXES on their own now... without dumping most of it on the rest of us like they have for decades.


33 posted on 09/29/2017 10:19:33 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: gspurlock
Though we don’t have a State Income Tax, in Texas, we do have sales tax and that has traditionally been a deduction. If we still have charitable deductions, I tend to agree this deduction should be retained.

If you are single, the Standard Deduction if $12K, $24K for Married Filing Joint.

Do you pay more than $12K or $24K in state sales tax? If not, you wouldn't get the itemized deduction anyway, because you would use the Standard Deduction. You wouldn't be itemizing.

I think Cohn said that only 25% of the people would be affected by the SALT deduction.

34 posted on 09/29/2017 10:19:54 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: vette6387

The 12 Republicans from CA have a dog in this hunt. They don’t want to vote for a tax increase on their voters, do they?


35 posted on 09/29/2017 10:20:49 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: zerosix

I’m in Texas, and I’m losing my property tax and sales tax deductions.

I’ve been fiddling with this, and I think there’s a 25 percent chance, my taxes are going up under this bill.


36 posted on 09/29/2017 10:22:45 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: zerosix

Second homes have never qualified for the mortgage deduction. I rent mine so I classify it as income. Most years, I take a slight loss so it actually lowers my taxable income.


37 posted on 09/29/2017 10:24:02 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: zerosix
real estate tax on your first home and charitable taxes would be deductible but second homes, vacation homes, cars, boats, etc. taxes are not now nor will they be if changed.

No, they are eliminating the State Tax & Property Tax (SALT) deductions. Mortgage Interest would stay.

However they are increasing the Standard Deduction for single to $12lK and MFJ to $24K. So you would have to reach $24K of deductions to exceed the Standard Deduction before you start itemizing.

38 posted on 09/29/2017 10:24:09 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: rxsid
People living in blue states might not be millionaires yet they agree to higher taxes through their legislatures and those of us in smaller, red states shouldn't have to pick up the slack for the blue, high tax states, regardless of your means.

We had higher taxes but got together and voted those tax and spend liberals out of office, in favor of tax cutters!

If we did it, you can too - just don't claim you're paying your fair share of national taxes when we are paying more because you simply deduct your high state taxes.

39 posted on 09/29/2017 10:24:37 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

They don’t. California is a net payer of federal money, like most of the big blue states.

They pay more in taxes than they receive in federal funding.


40 posted on 09/29/2017 10:25:47 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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