Posted on 09/25/2017 5:13:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
In a relatively rare admission for an American scholar, a leading U.S. historian who authored a provocative new tome about North American military conflicts states bluntly that Canada won the War of 1812.
Johns Hopkins University professor Eliot Cohen, a senior adviser to former U.S. secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, writes in his just-published book Conquered Into Liberty that, “ultimately, Canada and Canadians won the War of 1812.”
And Cohen acknowledges that, “Americans at the time, and, by and large, since, did not see matters that way.”
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Plus, as typified by Alberta, if not necessarily BC, the western provinces are infused with the entrepreneurial spirit that America needs in abundance.
There was no country called ‘Canada’ it was a British colony and is now a Common Wealth a sovereign nation with the Queen of England as its’ sovereign. So no Canada did not win the War of 1812. Nor did The United States. Briton didn’t really win either as its’ ultimate goal was a recapturing and reintegration of The American Colonies back into the British Empire. No land exchanged hands and the borders remained the same.
I’m a self employed electrical contractor. There’s many like me.
We also have a high appreciation for freedom.
As to mineral rights, it looks like the central government is just now moving that way.
OTTAWA, Feb. 10, 2017 /CNW/ - Ensuring our provincial and territorial partners are treated fairly is fundamental to creating jobs and economic prosperity for middle-class Canadians.
Canada’s Minister of Natural Resources, the Honourable Jim Carr, and Manitoba’s Minister of Growth Enterprise and Trade, the Honourable Cliff Cullen, today formally announced an agreement to transfer the Federal Soldier Settlement Board mineral rights and associated revenues from the Government of Canada to the Government of Manitoba. This agreement provides Manitoba with a payment of about $13 million for revenues generated from past oil and gas activities on these lands.
The Soldier Settlement Board was created by the Government of Canada in 1917 to assist veterans returning from the First World War to set up farms. Lands in various provinces were leased to veterans, but the federal government reserved the mineral rights beneath the land surface.
The central government of Canada is not in Ontario. It's in Ottawa. It's similar to the District of Columbia.
Puget Sound, not the Pacific Ocean.
2015 years they have Trudeau, and we have Trump, so looks like Canada definitely lost.
I’ll take your word for it. However, consider Wiki,
Unlike capital districts in some other federal countries, such as the District of Columbia in the United States or the Australian Capital Territory in Australia, the National Capital Region is not a separate political or administrative entity. Its component parts are within the provinces of Ontario and Quebec.
Many historians say nothing much changed after the War of 1812 but many things did change.
After the Revolutionary War, Loyalists from New York and New England moved up to around Cornwall and Toronto, Ontario and many settled in islands in the St. Lawrence River. After the 1812 War many of those islands went from Canada to the U.S. and vice versa. Loyalists on the islands went to bed one night thinking they were subjects of the Queen and awakened the next morning to find out they were Back in the USA
The Indians who had fought and died with promises of their own vast reserve were brushed aside as the British government sought to end the war in a hurry to avoid censure from its opponents in Parliament over the high costs of continuing the war. In a stroke of the pen, the Indens were cleared out of the way for American expansion and massive immigration that would gobble up their lands. And to the north, Canadians, by learning to bury ethnic differences and fight in common to resist the American invaders, emerged as a cohesive nation that, in not too many more years, would declare its independence from the British Empire.Unshackling America: How the War of 1812 Truly Ended the American Revolution June 27, 2017 by Willard Sterne RandallMost of all, the War of 1812 was a defining moment in the economic history of the nation that emerged from a half-century-long trade war as a major maritime power, a sovereign nation with worldwide commercial networks. Decades of embargoes and blockades had encouraged the development of internal industry and transportation so that the United States no longer was dependent on European policies and prices. It was not the Second American Revolution. It was the War of American Economic Independence, the last chapter of the American Revolution.
How could have Canada won the war of 1812 when they were not even a country ???
July 1 1867 they become independent from Britian
My boss at work was Korean. He said he went to bed in S Korea one night and woke up the next morning to see Communist flags flying everywhere.
That imagery stuck with me for years and came back strongly when Newt Gingrich’s efforts swung control of Congress over to Republicans for the first time in 35 years. I felt like there were freedom flags flying everywhere, and much like the Chinese gathering at Tienanmen Square, was a little baffled.
We don't need to "sack York",...
We could just send our Mexifornians who belong to 'La Raza'
and at the rate that they breed, York will demand that we take them over, since the Mexifornins would have already depleted the native population and their healthcare expense.
The healthcare system is already broke here, there’s nothing left to break.
Just save Yonge street downtown. They have the best strip joints. I’m talking about you, Le Strip!
Bring back Cabbagetown.
Not quite. The attack from ships against French Canadian militiamen at their settlements was a mistake instigated by an ignorant member of Congress, but that foolishness was reversed.
There were several important, long standing issues that rather needed to be settled with the British and what they were doing to U.S. colonies (kidnapping American men to enslave them on British ships, for one, British-planned and advised guerrilla attacks from Indian nations, for another). The War of 1812 went on into 1815 with increasingly more violent battles in U.S. colonies. Eventually, U.S. ships blockaded the English Channel. The U.S.A. won against the British.
It was really the second round of the American Revolution. Some Canadian militias defended their settlements from attempts of Americans to dismount from their ships and attack very well, but revisionism by uses of fallacies stinks.
Not quite. In effect, America sided with the dictator Napoleon.
As happens once in a while, my shrinking memory oversimplified an important part of history. The War of 1812 was a larger, more complicated mess than I remembered. Militarily speaking, the end result was possibly a tie...in a messy sense. In effect for the U.S.A., it turned out well.
As for Canadians, land-wise, they were Canadians. Nation-wise, they were British. I am reminded from a quick review that there were quite a few American leaders who wanted to annex Canada after all. So the British, French and Indian people in Canada did win after all. When attacked in some places (like York) then asked if they wanted to be liberated from the British, they answered no.
At the same time and before, the British were trying to regain control of The States in several ways: economic, geographical (American Indian guerrilla factions), people (capture and use of Americans on ships) and others (legal, etc.).
So Americans kept their country and reestablished some freedoms. British people and others in Canada kept their status as British subjects and separation from some of the affairs of The States.
So now that they’ve been increasingly more independent over time, what will Canadians do with the vast land of Canada? When will we be done with our monopolistic plutocrats’ stupid tariffs and duties against Canadian lumber?
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