Posted on 09/23/2017 4:03:36 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
ROME, September 23, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) Expressing profound grief and filial devotion, Catholic clergy and lay scholars from around the world have issued what they are calling a Filial Correction to Pope Francis for propagating heresy.
The Filial Correction, in the form of a 25-page letter, bears the signatures of sixty-two Catholic academics, researchers, and scholars in various fields from twenty countries. They assert that Pope Francis has supported heretical positions about marriage, the moral life, and the Eucharist that are causing a host of heresies and other errors to spread throughout the Catholic Church.
The correction was delivered to the Pope at his Santa Marta residence on August 11, 2017. No similar action has taken place within the Catholic Church since the Middle Ages, when Pope John XXII was admonished for errors which he later recanted on his deathbed.
With profound grief, but moved by fidelity to our Lord Jesus Christ, by love for the Church and for the papacy, and by filial devotion toward yourself, we are compelled to address a correction to Your Holiness on account of the propagation of heresies effected by the apostolic exhortation Amoris laetitia and by other words, deeds and omissions of Your Holiness, the signers write in the letter.
As subjects, we do not have the right to issue to Your Holiness that form of correction by which a superior coerces those subject to him with the threat or administration of punishment, they state.
We issue this correction, rather, to protect our fellow Catholics and those outside the Church, from whom the key of knowledge must not be taken away hoping to prevent the further spread of doctrines which tend of themselves to the profaning of all the sacraments and the subversion of the Law of God, they add.
Advertisement  The signers respectfully insist that Pope Francis condemn the heresies that he has directly or indirectly upheld, and that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.
They say that they make no judgment about the Popes culpability in propagating the seven heresies they list. They add that it is not their task to judge whether the sin of heresy has been committed whereby a person departs from the faith by doubting or denying some revealed truth with a full choice of the will.
The letter was made public today, six weeks after the signers received no response from the Pope.
Duty to correct
The 62 clergy and lay scholars explain that, as believing and practicing Catholics, they have the right and duty to issue such a correction to the Pope by natural law, by the law of Christ, and by the law of the Church and that the correction in no way undermines Catholic teaching on papal infallibility.
The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope is infallible (incapable of error by a special gift of the Holy Spirit) when certain conditions are met. He teaches infallibly in his ordinary capacity when a doctrine is consistent, constant, and universal in relation to what the Church and other popes have always taught. Or in an extraordinary capacity, he teaches infallibly when he speaks ex cathedra, that is, when he speaks in the capacity of his office as Apostolic pastor and teacher for the purpose of defining a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church. The Pope is not infallible in other matters, such as when he gives an off-the-cuff interview or presents his personal reflection on a given topic.
We adhere wholeheartedly to the doctrine of papal infallibility, the signers state, adding that in their opinion neither Amoris Laetitia nor any of the statements which have served to propagate the heresies which this exhortation insinuates are protected by that divine guarantee of truth. The signers opinion that the exhortation is not infallible magisterial teaching is backed by leading churchmen, such as Cardinal Raymond Burke.
The signers list a dozen passages from Amoris Laetitia that they say serve to propagate seven heretical propositions.
Included in the list is the smoking footnote 351 where the Pope writes that those living in an objective situation of sin can receive the help of the sacraments to grow in the life of grace and charity. Many have interpreted this to mean that civilly-divorced-and-remarried Catholics living in adultery can receive Holy Communion, and the Pope has endorsed guidelines allowing this. Also included in the list is the text pertaining to couples living in adultery who, the Pope writes, see their situation as what God himself is asking of them, despite falling short of the objective ideal.
The scholars say that these passages along with a number of words, deeds and omissions of the Pope are serving to propagate heresies within the Church.
According to the signers, the words, deeds and omissions of Pope Francis that promote heresy include:
Advertisement  Refusing to answer the dubia (five yes-or-no questions) submitted by the four cardinals (two of whom are now deceased) asking him to confirm that Amoris Laetitia does not abolish five teachings of the Catholic faith.
Forcibly intervening at the 2015 Synod of the Family where he insisted on inserting into a midterm report a proposal (that did not receive sufficient votes) to allow communion for adulterers and a proposal that pastors should emphasize the positive aspects of lifestyles the Church considers gravely sinful, including civil remarriage after divorce and premarital cohabitation.
Endorsing an interpretation of the exhortation by Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn that allows for Holy Communion to be given to adulterers.
Affirming the statement of the bishops of the Buenos Aires region that allowed Communion to be given to adulterers, stating that there are no other interpretations.
Appointing to positions of influence within the Church men who publicly dissent from Catholic teaching on the sacraments, including Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia and Cardinal Kevin Farrell.
Allowing guidelines for the diocese of Rome to be issued under his authority that permit adulterers to receive communion under certain circumstances.
Leaving uncorrected the publication in LOsservatore Romano, the official journal of the Holy See, the Maltese bishops interpretation of Amoris Laetitia that allows communion for adulterers.
Seven heresies
The Catholic clergy and lay scholars go on to list seven false and heretical propositions which they say Pope Francis directly or indirectly upholds through his words, deeds, and omissions. These seven propositions, listed below, are summaries of the positions which they attribute to Pope Francis and deem to be heretical.
A justified person has not the strength with Gods grace to carry out the objective demands of the divine law, as though any of the commandments of God are impossible for the justified; or as meaning that Gods grace, when it produces justification in an individual, does not invariably and of its nature produce conversion from all serious sin, or is not sufficient for conversion from all serious sin.
Christians who have obtained a civil divorce from the spouse to whom they are validly married and have contracted a civil marriage with some other person during the lifetime of their spouse, who live more uxorio [as husband and wife] with their civil partner, and who choose to remain in this state with full knowledge of the nature of their act and full consent of the will to that act, are not necessarily in a state of mortal sin, and can receive sanctifying grace and grow in charity.
Advertisement  A Christian believer can have full knowledge of a divine law and voluntarily choose to break it in a serious matter, but not be in a state of mortal sin as a result of this action.
A person is able, while he obeys a divine prohibition, to sin against God by that very act of obedience.
Conscience can truly and rightly judge that sexual acts between persons who have contracted a civil marriage with each other, although one or both of them is sacramentally married to another person, can sometimes be morally right or requested or even commanded by God.
Moral principles and moral truths contained in divine revelation and in the natural law do not include negative prohibitions that absolutely forbid particular kinds of action, inasmuch as these are always gravely unlawful on account of their object.
Our Lord Jesus Christ wills that the Church abandon her perennial discipline of refusing the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried and of refusing absolution to the divorced and remarried who do not express contrition for their state of life and a firm purpose of amendment with regard to it.
The clergy and scholars state that these propositions all contradict truths that are divinely revealed, and that Catholics must believe with the assent of divine faith.
They add that it is necessary that such heresies be condemned by the authority of the Church, on account of the great and imminent danger they cause to souls.
As one of the signers explained to LifeSiteNews, St. Thomas Aquinas taught that faithful Catholics have a duty to correct an erring prelate. He quoted the following passage from the saints famous theological work Summa Theologiae:
If the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. Hence Paul, who was Peters subject, rebuked him in public, on account of the imminent danger of scandal concerning the faith, and, as the gloss of Augustine says on Gal. 2:11, Peter gave an example to superiors, that if at any time they should happen to stray from the straight path, they should not disdain to be reproved by their subjects. The signers conclude the letter, writing: At this critical hour, therefore, we turn to the cathedra veritatis [seat of truth], the Roman Church, which has by divine law pre-eminence over all the churches, and of which we are and intend always to remain loyal children, and we respectfully insist that Your Holiness publicly reject these propositions, thus accomplishing the mandate of our Lord Jesus Christ given to St Peter and through him to all his successors until the end of the world: I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren."
Advertisement  One significant name in the list of signers is that of Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the traditionalist Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX). He signed the letter after it had already been submitted to the Pope. It remains to be seen how Fellays agreement with the content of the filial correction will affect Pope Francis recent efforts to integrate the SSPX legally into the Catholic Church.
Signs of the times
The filial correction comes after more than a year of the Pope not dialoguing or engaging with faithful Catholics who have approached him directly with serious concerns about how he is steering the Barque of Peter, the Church. The Pope has been sent letters, petitions, video messages, and official questions (the dubia), but all to no avail. Significant dates of attempts to dialogue with the Pope include:
September 29, 2015 791,000 Catholics (including 8 cardinals, over 200 bishops, and numerous priests, religious, and lay faithful representing 62 pro-family organizations) petition Pope Francis to end the widespread confusion arising from the possibility that a breach has been opened within the Church that would accept adultery... and would virtually even accept homosexual unions.
July 13, 2016 16 international life-and-family advocates plead with the Pope to unambiguously speak the truth of the Catholic faith, to end doctrinal confusion, to restore clarity, and to be the Holy Father that Catholics need.
July 11, 2016 45 Catholic scholars submit a letter to the cardinals and Eastern patriarchs of the Church asking them to petition the Pope to repudiate a list of erroneous propositions that can be drawn from Amoris Laetitia.
September 19, 2016 Four cardinals (two of whom are now deceased) submit to the Pope five yes-or-no questions (dubia) asking if the exhortation conforms to perennial Catholic teaching on the moral life. The questions were never answered.
January 18, 2017 Three Eastern European bishops launch a spiritual crusade urging the Pope to revoke in an unequivocal manner pastoral guidelines stemming from Amoris Laetitia that allow adulterers to receive Holy Communion.
April 25, 2017 The four dubia cardinals unsuccessfully ask the Pope for a private audience to discuss confusion and disorientation within the Church after the publication of Amoris Laetitia.
The filial correction of the Pope comes at a time when reports have emerged that suggest a "formal correction" of the Pope from cardinals may be imminent.
Cardinal Raymond Burke, one of the dubia Cardinals, outlined in August what such a correction would entail.
Advertisement  It seems to me that the essence of the correction is quite simple, Burke told The Wanderer. On the one hand, one sets forth the clear teaching of the Church; on the other hand, what is actually being taught by the Roman Pontiff is stated. If there is a contradiction, the Roman Pontiff is called to conform his own teaching in obedience to Christ and the Magisterium of the Church, he said.
The question is asked, How would this be done? It is done very simply by a formal declaration to which the Holy Father would be obliged to respond. Cardinals Brandmüller, Caffarra, Meisner, and I used an ancient institution in the Church of proposing dubia to the Pope, the Cardinal continued.
This was done in a very respectful way and not in any way to be aggressive, in order to give him the occasion to set forth the Churchs unchanging teaching. Pope Francis has chosen not to respond to the five dubia, so it is now necessary simply to state what the Church teaches about marriage, the family, acts that are intrinsically evil, and so forth. These are the points that are not clear in the current teachings of the Roman Pontiff; therefore, this situation must be corrected. The correction would then direct itself principally to those doctrinal points, he added.
Cardinal Burke added in an interview this month that the forthcoming formal correction would require the Pope to teach what the Catholic Church has always taught about marriage, the Eucharist, and the impossibility of ever justifying intrinsically evil acts.
His Eminence stated in a September 21 interview with Australias Catholic Outlook that he and remaining dubia Cardinal Walter Brandmüller will take forward the important work of resolving the dubia.
The urgency of a response to the dubia derives from the harm done to souls by the confusion and error, which result, as long as the fundamental questions raised are not answered in accord with the constant teaching and practice of the Church. The urgency weighs very heavily on my heart, he said.
The Filial Correction and its signatories, along with a summary statement and press release, can be viewed at www.correctiofilialis.org.
Editor's note: Diane Montagna contributed to this report.
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Signatories of the Filial Correction
Note: The letter delivered to Pope Francis on August 11 contained 40 names. 22 more names have been added since that date.
Advertisement  Dr. Gerard J. M. van den Aardweg European editor, Empirical Journal of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior
Prof. Jean Barbey Historian and Jurist, former Professor at the University of Maine
Fr Claude Barthe Diocesan Priest
Philip M. Beattie BA (Leeds), MBA (Glasgow), MSc (Warwick), Dip.Stats (Dublin) Associate Lecturer, University of Malta (Malta)
Fr Jehan de Belleville Religious
Dr. Philip Blosser Professor of Philosophy, Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Archdiocese of Detroit
Fr Robert Brucciani District superior of the SSPX in Great Britain
Prof. Mario Caponnetto University Professor, Mar de la Plata (Argentina)
Mr Robert F. Cassidy STL
Fr Isio Cecchini Parish Priest in Tuscany
Advertisement  Salvatore J. Ciresi M.A. Director of the St. Jerome Biblical Guild, Lecturer at the Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College
Fr. Linus F Clovis Ph.D., JCL, M.Sc., STB, Dip. Ed Director of the Secretariat for Family and Life in the Archdiocese of Castries
Fr Paul Cocard Religious
Fr Thomas Crean OP STD
Prof. Matteo D'Amico Professor of History and Philosophy, Senior High School of Ancona
Dr. Chiara Dolce PhD Research doctor in Moral Philosophy at the University of Cagliari
Deacon Nick Donnelly MA
Petr Dvorak Head of Department for the Study of Ancient and Medieval Thought at the Institute of Philosophy, Czech Academy of Sciences, Prague Professor of philosophy at Saints Cyril and Methodius Theological Faculty, Palacky University, Olomouc, Czech Republic
H.E. Mgr Bernard Fellay Superior General of the SSPX
Christopher Ferrara Esq. Founding President of the American Catholic Lawyers Association
Advertisement  Prof. Michele Gaslin Professor of Public Law at the University of Udine
Prof. Corrado Gnerre Professor at the Istituto Superiore di Scienze Religiose of Benevento, Pontifical Theological University of Southern Italy
Dr. Ettore Gotti Tedeschi Former President of the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), Professor of Ethics at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Milan
Dr. Maria Guarini STB Pontificia Università Seraphicum, Rome; editor of the website Chiesa e postconcilio
Prof. Robert Hickson PhD Retired Professor of Literature and of Strategic-Cultural Studies
Fr John Hunwicke Former Senior Research Fellow, Pusey House, Oxford
Fr Jozef Hutta Diocesan Priest
Prof. Isebaert Lambert Full Professor at the Catholic University of Louvain, and at the Flemish Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Dr. John Lamont STL DPhil (Oxon.)
Fr Serafino M. Lanzetta STD Lecturer in Dogmatic Theology, Theological Faculty of Lugano, Switzerland; Priest in charge of St Marys, Gosport, in the diocese of Portsmouth
Advertisement  Prof. Massimo de Leonardis Professor and Director of the Department of Political Sciences at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart in Milan
Msgr. Prof. Antonio Livi Academic of the Holy See Dean emeritus of the Pontifical Lateran University Vice-rector of the church of Sant'Andrea del Vignola, Rome
Dr. Carlo Manetti Professor in Private Universities in Italy
Prof. Pietro De Marco Former Professor at the University of Florence
Prof. Roberto de Mattei Former Professor of the History of Christianity, European University of Rome Former Vice President of the National Research Council (CNR)
Fr Cor Mennen Lecturer in Canon Law at the Major Seminary of the Diocese of s-Hertogenbosch (Netherlands) Canon of the cathedral chapter of the diocese of s-Hertogenbosch
Prof. Stéphane Mercier Lecturer in Philosophy at the Catholic University of Louvain
Don Alfredo Morselli STL Parish priest of the archdiocese of Bologna
Martin Mosebach Writer and essayist
Dr. Claude E. Newbury M.B., B.Ch., D.T.M&H., D.O.H., M.F.G.P., D.C.H., D.P.H., D.A., M. Med; Former Director of Human Life International in Africa south of the Sahara Former Member of the Human Services Commission of the Catholic Bishops of South Africa
Advertisement  Prof. Lukas Novak Faculty of Arts and Philosophy, Charles University, Prague
Fr Guy Pagès Diocesan Priest
Prof. Paolo Pasqualucci Professor of Philosophy (retired), University of Perugia
Prof. Claudio Pierantoni Professor of Medieval Philosophy in the Philosophy Faculty of the University of Chile Former Professor of Church History and Patrology at the Faculty of Theology of the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
Father Anthony Pillari J.C.L., M.C.L
Prof. Enrico Maria Radaelli Philosopher, editor of the works of Romano Amerio
Dr. John Rao Associate Professor of History, St. Johns University, NYC; Chairman, Roman Forum
Dr. Carlo Regazzoni Licentiate in Philosophy at University of Freiburg
Dr. Giuseppe Reguzzoni External Researcher at the Catholic University of Milan and former editorial assistant of Communio, International Catholic Review (Italian edition)
Prof. Arkadiusz Robaczewski Former Professor at the Catholic University of Lublin
Advertisement  Fr Settimio M. Sancioni STD Licence in Biblical Science
Prof. Andrea Sandri Research Associate, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart in Milan
Dr. Joseph Shaw Tutor in Moral philosophy, St Benets Hall, University of Oxford
Fr Paolo M. Siano HED (Historiae Ecclesiasticae Doctor)
Dr. Cristina Siccardi Historian of the Church
Dr Anna Silvas Adjunct research fellow, University of New England, NSW, Australia
Prof. Dr Thomas Stark Phil.-Theol. Hochschule Benedikt XVI, Heiligenkreuz
Rev. Glen Tattersall Parish Priest, Parish of Bl. John Henry Newman, archdiocese of Melbourne; Rector, St Aloysius Church
Prof. Giovanni Turco Associate Professor of Philosophy of Public Law at the University of Udine Member Correspondent of the Pontificia Accademia San Tommaso d'Aquino
Prof. Piero Vassallo Former editor of Cardinal Siris theological review Renovatio
Advertisement  Prof. Arnaldo Vidigal Xavier da Silveira Former Professor at the Pontifical University of São Paulo, Brazil
The Israelites would not leave Egypt until they had the bones of Joseph, and the Pharaoh endured all of the plagues except the last one until he released them.
The Israelites would not leave Egypt until they had the bones of Joseph, and the Pharaoh endured all of the plagues except the last one until he released them.
Also, why is it that roughly 100 trillion single cell organisms do not consume the incorrupt body of St. Rita?
Not unusual to ‘transport’ dead bodies for burial in their homeland for obvious reasons....fact remains they buried the body.
Mummification embalming fluid that’s how..... bodies were often treated with preservatives as soon as the person died so that the body would be able to be kept for longer for public viewing before burial....Further there is any number of ‘ordinary people’ ,who were not religious,whose bodies were untouched by decay....Buddhist Monks and yogis have also escaped decay.
In China, mummies with European features up to ‘4000 years old’ were found in the Tarim Basin desert 30 years ago. They are so well preserved and preserved much better than many Catholic saints who are mere centuries old that they look as if they are recently dead... Their clothes were remarkably preserved as well. One mummy had an intact goose feather in her hat.
The best ever preserved corpse is that of ‘Xin Zhui’ which was found in China in 1971.... Her death is dated to 178145 BC......bout 50 at death..... An autopsy found that she seemed to be only a short time dead. They found her organs were intact. Her blood was still red in her veins.
Nobody knows for sure what was responsible for such a remarkable preservation. Her airtight coffin is thought to have contributed to it. A liquid in the coffin in a shade of red may explain the mystery but nobody knows what it is. The bodies of her neighbours Sui Xiaoyuan and Ling Huiping are similarly well preserved.
Xin’s body is kept in the Hunan Provincial Museum. She proves that bodies can be inexplicably preserved without accounting for it with the supernatural.
Finally , there is no such thing as a saint’s corpse that remains the same way for decades, that keeps looking like it just died... ‘All’ of the bodies are unpleasant to look at in their natural state... ‘None’ of them are flexible.... if a corpse looks remarkably good through mummification or whatever this is not incorruption. ...
Mummification is just a form of decomposition or desiccation. The corpse is just decomposing well for its age!
So not a single Catholic incorruptible is a miracle of God? I mean you cannot have a single one, because then there could be others...
Do you believe in miracles of any type?
So no miracles, all incorruptibles can be explained by natural causes, such as mummification, great embalming fluids, etc...
There are two problems with your statements in this regard:
1. Mummification is the orderly dehydration of human tissue, think beef jerky. That would explain an incorruptible that was totally dehydrated. But there are many that are plump, full of fluid.
2. Okay, so maybe many were embalmed with really top notch preservatives. Yes, that could explain some phenomena, but many of the incorruptibles were never embalmed. Think Irish wake. The deceased is laid upon a bed of ice, the relatives gather
to drink and commemorate their loved one, then when the ice melts the deceased is put in a pine box and interred.
So, what is really at the heart of your world view is the absolute disbelief that God works signs for us through miracles. The fact that you disbelieve even the greatest of these, the incorruptibles, is a testament to your unfounded belief that all phenomena can be explained by natural causes, or maybe it is desired that God does not exist?
I will pray to St. Rita de Cassius for your conversion. That God With Us, Emmanuel, Who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, will show you the way home.
Pope Francis is a nutball. How did this happen?
Was out of town a few days so will respond to your post now...
You stated.....”So, what is really at the heart of your world view is the absolute disbelief that God works signs for us through miracles. The fact that you disbelieve even the greatest of these, the incorruptibles, is a testament to your unfounded belief that all phenomena can be explained by natural causes”......
Not even close in your assumptions. But I will admit that most all of the declared miracles in many church institutions that dramatize these do so to keep the cash flows going into their coffers. So yes I want it proved as such....unfortunately that rarely happens.
Matthew 16:4
A wicked and adulterous generation demands ‘a sign’, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Then He left them and went away.
Mark 8:12
Jesus sighed deeply in His spirit and said, “Why does this generation demand a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to this generation.”
Luke 11:29
As the crowds were increasing, Jesus said, “This is a wicked generation. It demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.
Argument by association. One of the weakest forms of argument.
When saints are buried, no one asks for them to be made incorruptible. They are found later, some times hundreds of years later. It is a sign, for us to study and imitate their life. But it is not a sign we asked for due to disbelief.
Your arguments that all incorruptibles can be explained by natural causes is what atheists use. Sorry if I assumed you were not a believer in Jesus Christ.
As is the general case there really is no way to convince someone who ‘wants to believe’ in untruths .....they can’t get beyond what they’ve been indoctrinated to believe.
Fro all I’ve seen and noted any religion can create relics and various other tricks of their trade to keep people engaged. There is a difference between ones faith in a person and that of objects and dead corpses...no matter what they look like.
Paraphrasing G K Chesterton in his “Orthodoxy”, a maniac’s small vision of the world explains everything that is, but it is a much smaller world than the one we live in.
There are incorruptibles, and no matter how much you deny their existence, they still exist. But if your doctrinal formation is such that they cannot exist, then they must not exist...
I’ve only seen a few incorruptibles, St. Catherine Laboure and another nun from her community in Paris, and the burnt remains of St. Genevieve, the patron saint of Paris, an incorruptible that the French revolutionaries burned and threw in the river during the Reign of Terror. I would love to see more, but we have so few here in the United States.
This is a nice reference for believers in the miracles of incorruptibles and those who simply cannot believe:
https://www.amazon.com/Incorruptibles-Incorruption-Bodies-Various-Catholic/dp/0895550660
And here is a list of places that have fairly complete relic collections. What is missing from this list is the Benedictine Abbey in Still River, MA.
United States
Chicago, Illinois
Relic: Over 2000 relics, including some of all 12 Apostlesand 24 of the 33 Doctors of the Church
Where: St. John Cantius Parish,825 North Carpenter Street Chicago, Illinois 60622-5405, Phone:312-243-7373
St. Marys, Kansas
Relic: Practically every Saint who’s ever lived
Where: At St. Mary’s Academy,there’s a Relic Chapel that contains an incredible amount of first class relics (though no major tombs or shrines). The address is: St.Mary’s Academy & College, 200 E. Mission Street, St. Marys, KS66536
Louisville, Kentucky
Relic: St. Bonosa and St. Magnus
Where: At St. Martin of Toursparish church, 639 South Shelby Street, Louisville, Kentucky, 40202
Emmitsburg, Maryland
Relic: St. Elizabeth Ann Seton
Where: Seton Shrine Chapel,Emmitsburg, Frederick County, Maryland
Relic: St. Frances Cabrini
Where: St. Frances CabriniShrine, 701 Fort Washington Avenue, New York City, New York
Maria Stein, Ohio
Relic: Practically every Saint who’s ever lived
Where: Another Relic Chapel likethat of St. Mary’s Academy in Kansas (no major tombs or shrines) is the Maria Stein Center. The address is: 2291 St. Johns Road, Maria Stein,Ohio 45860, (419) 925-4532
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Relic: St. John Neumann
Where: National Shrine of SaintJohn Neumann, 1019 North Fifth Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19123
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Relic: Practically every Saint who’s ever lived
Where: Another Relic Chapel —the largest in the United States — is St. Anthony’s Chapel in the MostHoly Name of Jesus parish. The address is: 1700 Harpster St.,Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (Troy Hill).
There are facts, and there are beliefs, and there are things some want so badly to believe that they become as facts to them....they will keep on believing, despite all the evidence that they are wrong.
Furthermore.... people convince themselves or remain convinced of what ‘they want’ to believe...seeking out agreeable information while they avoid, ignore, devalue, forget, or argue against information that contradicts their beliefs... doing all the mental gymnastics it takes to remain convinced that theyre right.
As has been said....”The real enemy of truth is not ignorance, doubt, or even disbelief,.It is false knowledge.”
Just stick a mirror up when you read your last post .
Problem solved.
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