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To: proust
Good thing we didn’t get Hillary, she would have given the dreamers amnesty.

Why do dreamers need amnesty? Think carefully about your answer to the question. It is vitally important you NOT confuse the DACA people with “amnesty” because it devalues the term for the TRUE illegals who came here VIOLATING the rules.

Confused? Good. Here's more confusion: The DACA “kids” are not “illegals.” They did NOT come here illegally.

FACT: They came here on the basis of a US government program via presidential executive order. Barring a court striking it down (didn’t happen) or congress passing a law (didn’t happen), Obama’s executive order has the status of a temporary law. Trump has now RESCINDED that law, but that doesn’t change the fact that anyone who came here UNDER that law is legal. People are not “illegal” for playing by the rules they were given. Once the law changes (under Trump), then they can be sent back. But don’t mix up rules changes with legality. Therefore, if they weren’t here “illegally” they aren’t getting “amnesty” which is forgiveness for breaking a law.

"Now wait a minute," you object, "Obama was an illegitimate President! What he did was illegitimate! Unconstitutional!"

Yes, but...He did it under the authority of the office of the President, and NOBODY stopped him. Besides, if what he did was illegitimate, then why did Trump have to bother to RESCIND that law? Hmmm?

Good. Confusion leads to better understanding and clearer thinking of important terminology.

...don't confuse DACA with amnesty...

68 posted on 09/18/2017 12:10:07 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Actually, DACA dreamers did arrive illegally - but as minors, many of which were brought across the border by their illegal parents.

CA stands for “Childhood Arrivals” - meaning illegal, but underage.

Your post is in error, FRiend.


78 posted on 09/18/2017 12:18:27 PM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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