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To: Ennis85

Military strategists going forward should study Vietnam for how not to fight a war. You never play with one hand tied behind your back. When you to war, you go to war with the intent to win and that means defeating the enemy.


2 posted on 09/16/2017 7:48:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; ConorMacNessa
Vietnam was the precedent for politicians establishing the "Rules Of Engagement" to make the war more "fair" and to appease the anti-war public.

I'm a Vietnam Vet, saw this SH*t firsthand and it pissed us off..........WTF, OVER, you want us to win this f****** war or not?!?!?

It's still happening in Afghanistan and it pisses our Military off still.

I have high hopes for Sec. Mattis!

5 posted on 09/16/2017 7:59:04 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: ealgeone

you go to war with the intent to win


It was Napoleon who said, “If you’re going to take Vienna, take Vienna.” IOW, half-hearted prosecution of war is a bad idea. That looks to be the American way ever since WWII.


6 posted on 09/16/2017 7:59:04 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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8 posted on 09/16/2017 8:07:13 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ealgeone

We could have destroyed Hanoi a dozen times over.
But instead, we sent 18 and 19 year old Americans into a pointless continuation of what the French had created.


42 posted on 09/17/2017 5:23:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ealgeone

We have always fought wars discerning our use of power

Always

Most civilized countries do

Just because you have doesn’t mean you can use it

I agree we failed our troops in Indochina

No question


57 posted on 09/17/2017 2:57:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: ealgeone; Ennis85; wardaddy
McMaster's book "Dereliction of Duty" is on the reading list at our military colleges.

It will tell you everything that you could know about how our lack of strategy in Vietnam developed, beginning with blunders by Kennedy and most heavily with the utter deceitfulness of Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara.

Johnson and McNamara had no intention of winning that war. The JCS told them before the first combat soldier was sent that it would be a major war taking a minimum of 500,000 troops and 5 years of hard fighting.

Johnson wanted nothing to interfere with his giant Great Society domestic programs so he was only willing to commit enough military effort to put on a "show of American resolve". This piecemeal, "graduated response" was designed by lawyers working for LBJ and it was the disaster that the military predicted it would be, allowing the North to ramp up their own efforts to match ours. It's all in the memos and Presidential papers that McMaster uncovered in his research.

70 posted on 09/18/2017 8:09:04 AM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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