Yes she can with Satan's little helper. And they did; all according to plan.
Posted on 09/12/2017 3:12:37 PM PDT by Ennis85
[Hell comes after the White Throne Judgement.]
Posting not to offend but just to work that out a bit. It is actually the Lake of Fire for unbelievers that comes after the White Throne Judgement. Death and Hell are tossed into the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 20:14 King James Version
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Just before that, the Devil is thrown into the Lake of Fire, where the Beast (Antichrist) and the False Prophet already are; they being captured at the Second Coming of Christ.
Revelation 20:10 King James Version
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelation 19:20 King James Version
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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Is this the no jokes allowed zone? Lighten up.
That is complicated. At least with male homosexuals, the person “marrying” the could just refer to the male role player as “pitcher” and the female role player as “catcher”. Maybe its “Muffy” and “Buffy”?
I agree with your eschatology. Even Jesus’ parable of the rich man and Lazarus was not referring to hell, but Sheol, a temporary “compartment” for the dead until the final Judgement.
I use “hell” here prospectively.
Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?” - John 6:70
While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. - John 17:12
She helped move the whole country closer to Sodom. Quite an achievement.
Revelation 20:14 King James Version
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Thank you for the correction. You are absolutely right.
If they had had competent legal council they could have made arrangements for the disposition of their estates with less tax being paid. They could have had a legal contract between partners that would have solved their problems.
Yes, we can assess the life lived -—that’s an objective thing, open to our view -— and say if she did not repent, she is doomed to lasting horror.
However we cannot say with moral certainty that she is in hell, because it is something we cannot know. She could have repented in the very throes of dying, as did the Good Thief.
Therefore we are entitled -— we are obliged -— to pray for her.
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I'm not sure what the Catholic view is, but it's too late to pray for her once she passes on. That die has been cast.
You’ll notice I agreed with you that “the die has been cast” and the departed person is already, and irrevocably, saved or lost.
However it is not too late to pray, for two reasons: 1) we never know whether a person has gone to hell, but even if they have, the prayer won’t benefit them but it will benefit us. 2)if they are undergoing a period of purification (purgatory)-— which, I think, most people do before they enter heaven, since “nobody’s perfect” -— our prayers can console them and hasten their entry into heaven.
The Apostle Paul says (1 Timothy 2:1) “I exhort that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men.”
The Jews prayed and made offerings in the Temple for the dead, because of this understanding that life is not ended, only changed. Most Christians understand “all men” to include the living and the dead, since Jesus also teaches us that all are alive in the eyes of God.
God didn’t create AIDS. He didn’t create anything evil.
Evil things are perversions of things that were created good. Thus includes even viruses and other pathogens. Didn’t exist in Eden. They are part of a deteriorating world, and this decay of all things is the natural and logical results of the sin process which has been working to our detriment since our First Parents’ catastrophic Fall.
I’ll grant you that we sometimes can’t know for certain what a person’s final spiritual state is, but we can have some pretty strong clues. You might as well surmise that Judas could have repented unto salvation before he hung himself.
Edith Windsor never repudiated her unholy “marriage” to another woman, even unto her death. That is pretty substantive certainty that she died a damned sinner.
That’s why I say we can-— and sometimes must,-— judge things we can objectively observe: words, as true or false; ideas and ideologies as right or wrong, actions and behaviors as good or evil. And say “Woe to the unrepentant who do not turn from their ways, they are bound for the fures of hell.”
But you can’t say with moral certainty that a particular person is in hell. God has not given us that to know.
Yes, even Judas might have repented unto salvation before his last brain lobe uttrrky failed.
It would be presumptuous to say that he did. But it would be despairing to say he couldn’t have. It short-sells Our Lord’s truly unfathomable power to save.
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