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Election board lists more general election votes than voters in Chicago
Chicago City Wire ^

Posted on 08/28/2017 7:03:38 AM PDT by TigerClaws

More than 14,000 votes were cast in Chicago during the 2016 general election than there were voters to cast them, based on separate figures released by the Chicago Board of Elections, the chairman of the Chicago Republican Party has reported.

Chris Cleveland told the Chicago Wire that "on a whim," he filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the board, which provided him with a list of 1,101,178 people who voted in the general election. An earlier post on the board's website said that 1,115,664 votes had been cast.

Chris Cleveland, chairman, Chicago Republican Party Chris Cleveland, chairman, Chicago Republican Party “There should be never be more votes than voters,” Cleveland said. “Every ballot cast should be recorded against a registered voter.”

The party did a breakdown of voting by precinct, and Cleveland said it found an uneven distribution of discrepancies. Fifteen precincts had 100 more ballots cast than voters, while others had fewer votes than voters.

In fact, based on the party's calculations, the combined total of votes in precincts showing more votes cast than voters was approximately 16,000, Cleveland said.

Cleveland said that the Chicago Republicans have asked the board repeatedly since January to explain the discrepancy, but is has responded by saying only that “there will be a final report.”

“I heard through a back channel that they are scrambling to put something together as a way of explanation,” he said. “This is either a case of massive incompetency or massive fraud.”

Jim Allen, a board spokesman, said that the list turned over to the Chicago Republicans was incomplete and handed over prematurely.

“Not all voters were entered electronically into the system at first,” he said. “They have since been added.”

He added that he had heard nothing about the issuing of a “final report.”

After being informed of Allen's comments, Cleveland said he immediately made an updated request for data.

"Technically, they have seven days to respond," he said.

Separately, Washington-based Judicial Watch named Illinois among 11 states that have another kind of discrepancy in their voting rolls: The number of registered voters exceeds the number of voting-age citizens as determined by a review of Census data.

In April, the group sent a notice-of-violation letter along with a threat to sue the 11 states.

Robert Popper, director of Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project and formerly deputy chief of the voting section of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, said that not maintaining accurate voting rolls violates the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

“People remember the act as the ‘motor voter’ law because it requires the states to offer voter registration forms with driver license applications,” Popper said. “But what a lot of people forget is that as a compromise for getting the act through, it requires states to maintain accurate voting rolls.”

Judicial Watch identified 26 Illinois counties where voter registration was higher than the number of people eligible to vote, according to Census numbers.

“The norm of registered voters to those eligible is in the 70 percent to 80 percent range,” he said. “Anything in the 90 percent range or above is a red flag.”

Popper said that some states explain the discrepancy by arguing that the high registration numbers are due to having inactive voters on their rolls. The problem with that is that inactive voters can still vote.

“Each state has its own laws to determine whether a voter is inactive,” he said. “But to actually take someone off the voting rolls is a very deliberate process spelled out by federal law, and few states do it.”

Popper said that the responses from the states have ranged from “they will look into it” to “showing reluctance to do anything.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; election2016; electionfraud; fraud; vote; votefraud; voting
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To: TigerClaws

With the Chicago homicide rate going way up, it is only natural for ‘Rat voter fraud to rise - there is a directly proportional causal relationship to the two.


41 posted on 08/28/2017 8:18:47 AM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: C210N

The only people voting in Chicago would be the dead.

If vote fraud can be cleaned up - it’ll make it harder for the Democrats to win on turf they own.


42 posted on 08/28/2017 8:22:46 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: C210N

The voting turnout in 2016 was an average of 58% nation-wide. Historically cities have lower turnout than rural/small town America. I view anything over 50% turnout in Chicago as fraud.


43 posted on 08/28/2017 8:26:32 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: TigerClaws

I read all the comments so far and no one seems to have picked up on this yet: The list he got was of all who voted, not all who were registered. Big difference.

In other words, the list of those who actually voted was lower than the total votes counted by 14,000. Out of 1.1 million votes, that’s a tabulation error rate of a little over one percent. That’s high enough that there was probably some fraudulent over-counting going on, but it’s not what people are claiming here, i.e., that over 100% of eligible voters cast ballots.

I’d be amazed to find that a lot of those “voters” were legitimate voters, but that’s not the issue being discussed here. It’s tabulation of actual votes cast.


44 posted on 08/28/2017 8:27:07 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: TigerClaws

Big deal. Once again, evidence of widespread voter fraud, absolutely nothing is done about it and the establishment of the uniparty, along with their minions in the press, tell us that it doesn’t exist and our new AG... Oh, never mind...


45 posted on 08/28/2017 8:27:28 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: 1Old Pro
1. The article does not say 70% turnout. It says that the number of REGISTERED voters (not those who cast ballots) is usually 70% of the eligible population.

2. Lots of places have turnout as a PERCENTAGE OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS in the 80s to low 90s -- look at rural Wisconsin counties that went heavily for Trump, or well-educated precincts.

3. The real problem is failure to clean voter rolls, so that when registered voters exceed number of possibly eligible persons, there is a lot of "deadwood" that could be used for mischief. Nevertheless, there simply aren't cases of more ballots cast than names on the voter list. Such reports are always errors. [Happy to examine any reports of specific precincts or places alleged to the contrary]

46 posted on 08/28/2017 8:43:58 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: TigerClaws

this is why the dems are so eager to put a stop to the investigation into voter fraud. They know it exists, and that it is what helps them win election.


47 posted on 08/28/2017 8:49:25 AM PDT by euram
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To: TigerClaws

If this is not stopped and fundamentally changed,the President Trump win will only be a mild speed bump to the destruction of the Republic.


48 posted on 08/28/2017 9:58:37 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: goldstategop

Yes, Trump won MI by a few thousand votes, but Stabenow lives to fight him onward!


49 posted on 08/28/2017 10:04:40 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: TigerClaws
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50 posted on 08/28/2017 10:13:32 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Norseman

You are missing a major point: the discrepancies and tabulating errors in voting occurred in a single Illinois city.

The Chicago Board of Elections has been stonewalling. Practically eleven months have elapsed since the November, 2016 general election and the election authority has yet to issue its final report?

Trump won 91 out of 102 Illinois counties. Clinton ran up her totals in eleven counties which have city political machine organizations. While I doubt that an investigation would change the results (Trump did not actively campaign in Illinois and ceded the state), Clinton’s percentage would be reduced.

More importantly, the Democratic Machine may be exposed for fraud which could have impacted some down the ballot races. For example, the Democratic candidate for state treasurer barely defeated his Republican opponent.


51 posted on 08/28/2017 11:59:57 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: TigerClaws
“Not all voters were entered electronically into the system at first,” he said. “They have since been added.”

I'll bet they are.


52 posted on 08/28/2017 1:21:08 PM PDT by Oatka
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