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Given the total leftist fanaticism of Burns, I doubt if he would make the same documentary today.
1 posted on 08/21/2017 4:46:48 PM PDT by euram
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Here’s why, all of the sudden the libtards are afraid of the Confederacy: They know that, before long, the prosperous, liberty-loving red states will break off again, leaving the blue states with the national debt their leaders created, and the throngs of freeloaders those same leaders enable. Without the taxes from the red-state producers, the blue states won’t have a chance.


2 posted on 08/21/2017 4:53:28 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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The late Shelby Foote was the star of that documentary. Far more insightful and objective in his commentary on the two combatants than leftist historian Barbara Fields who came across as your typical angry lefty.


3 posted on 08/21/2017 4:54:32 PM PDT by dowcaet
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Ken Burns pushed the War Between The States mythology that that war was fought over slavery. Mr. Burns, an excellent filmologist, was not correct in his history about some of that unnecessary conflict. Slavery was not the reason nor the cause of Lincoln’s war...he it to did preserve the ‘union’ but at a terrible cost....the South had asked for a relief from high Northern tariffs for years...the rest is history.


5 posted on 08/21/2017 5:02:26 PM PDT by yoe
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Have blacks ever said a public thank you to all the whites who were killed or maimed in the Union Army?


11 posted on 08/21/2017 5:10:00 PM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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I am wondering if anyone can give me a hand refuting the point a person was making in another forum.

She said that most of the Civil War monuments were actually put up at the turn of the century, the 20’s and the 60’s, supposedly more as a ‘message’ to those pushing for civil rights than as any direct honoring of the CSA or its ideals...

Trying to refute this, at least as to the chronology (can’t argue meaning with a leftist, but it would seem weird if they were more tied to the Democrat KKK than the direct honoring of CSA soldiers)

Thanks in advance


12 posted on 08/21/2017 5:10:41 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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The first half of that documentary series was quite watchable and informative. It was quite clear that the war wasn’t initially about slavery, and that many confederates who fought didn’t own slaves.


14 posted on 08/21/2017 5:12:53 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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Well, we could always have a rerun of Alex Haley’s “ROOTS”. It showed slavery in all its ugly brutality.


16 posted on 08/21/2017 5:16:46 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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Given the total leftist fanaticism of Burns, I doubt if he would make the same documentary today.


I was thinking the same.


22 posted on 08/21/2017 5:29:33 PM PDT by lodi90
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He did the same thing to baseball and jazz, two American inventions.


31 posted on 08/21/2017 5:38:49 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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I wonder why we haven’t heard from Mr. Burns? I know that he would be against confederate monument removal, but he is also a big lefty.


33 posted on 08/21/2017 5:41:01 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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I doubt if he would make the same documentary today.

A lot has changed since then. My older relatives really loved the series.

I suspect that one reason for the great popularity of show was the WWII/Korea generation, the last generation to know Civil War veterans, and maybe the last generation of Americans to be deeply united.

Much of the talk about combat and combatants in that long ago war struck a chord with the older generation that is now passing from the scene.

34 posted on 08/21/2017 5:41:34 PM PDT by x
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..."Ashokan Farewell" is a sad piece of music...

Not sad. Wistful. Nostalgic. It's in D Major throughout.

Ungar: "Ashokan Farewell"

36 posted on 08/21/2017 5:46:50 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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I prefer the movie “Gods and Generals” to the Ken Burns documentary.


38 posted on 08/21/2017 6:02:35 PM PDT by tbpiper
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It’s hard to beat “Ashokan Farewell” though.


51 posted on 08/21/2017 8:58:18 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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Burns is making “the same documentary today” on Vietnam. Premiers next month and from serious Vietnam veterans/historians/researchers, we’ve been told that it is a maudling attempt to enforce a “moral equivalency” between the US military and Hanoi’s murderous invaders.

Burns doesn’t know anything about Vietnam. Nor does his assistant Novick. They were either no born back then or too young to have watched it/read about it in real time.

I spent almost an hour yesterday talking to a real Viet Vet (Mobile Riverine Force) - Mekong Delta, from CaMau out and up the western side of the Delta, Mekong River, and a few other places I’ve never heard of. I travelled to visit a 7th ARVN 105 battery on the Ham Leuong River higher up in the Delta but the views were the same.

My associates in Vietnam Veterans For Factual History.org know more about Vietnam then Burns will ever know in this life and the next, yet they were not interviewed for this series. Given the fact that our members have written over or edited/contributed to over 75-100 books minimis (including several national award winners - Lewis Sorley and Mark Moyar), and have combat tours from ground pounders to Special Forces, SwiftBoaters, POWS, Provincial Advisors (RFs, PFs, PSDF’s, Kit Carson Scouts), handled Hoi Chans, worked the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and briefed President Thieu, you would think the Burns would jump at interviewing people whose experiences in S. VN, Cambodia, and Laos, mirrored the war throughout its existence.

In fact, our oldest member is 88 years old and when he starts to talk about his earliest experiences in Vietnam, it was about his being with So. Vietnamese leaders fighting the Viet Minh in the early 1950’s.

Burns’ work will be compared to Stanley Karnow’s large book on Vietnam (which had good and bad materials in it), but neither have understood the whole “context” of what was going on there, and apparently didn’t try hard enough, if at all, to talk to people who could explain some of a very complex historical event.


54 posted on 08/21/2017 10:24:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Understand the Ken Burns documentary on The Vietnam War starts tonight. I will have to pass. Will he make heroes out of JFK and others for it?


156 posted on 09/17/2017 12:46:23 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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