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“Was”? The Charleston SC church gunman is nuts too. I expect the Dallas gunman that killed five policemen was off his rocker too. I could list a lot more. Besides the number of meds being prescribed which may or may not work or actually be taken on an outpatient bases we let these people have free run. Used to put them in nut house which was hell due to lack of funding so we stopped that. Unintended consequences happen.


12 posted on 08/15/2017 9:36:26 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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Gabby Giffords' shooter, whom the NY Slimes blamed on Palin, would be another example. Seems like most of the cases the MSM has tried to blame on Conservatives as solo "right wing" violence against lefties turn out to be schizophrenic and multiple failures of the liberal mental health support system. Pre-JFK they were institutionalized, perhaps too easily but since JFK they only get institutionalized by earning their way into the penal system.

Schizophrenia is a real disease and a relatively common one, the manifestations of which can vary widely from case to wecase and over time. Many aren't active threats to others, but a subset become significant threats. There was an old term for such sad cases, 'Dangerous Lunatics.' They can't exercise responsibility for their own behavior. We sane folks must exercise responsibility over them to protect ourselves. We should do so kindly and wisely but we cannot abdicate that responsibility. It remains whether or not we exercise it.

Under JFK, liberal 'do gooders' were so impressed by then new miracle drugs which appeared to help schizophreniacs they thought the old mental hospitals were no longer needed. In hindsight those drugs, and those that followed them, haven't been as miraculous as hoped. Closer, earlier supervision and even institutionalization is needed for a subset of patients. It may even save costs by keeping some out of the even more expensive penal system. Research for better medical treatments should continue as a true cure of schizophrenia would be one of the most economically valuable medical advances in history.

Yes, the media does use the mantle of, sometimes very loosely defined, 'mental illness' to excuse some of the violence coming from its side and from its muslim friends. Give that there is a genetic component to schizophrenia and given the culturally endorsed centuries of cousin marriage in the muslim world it wouldn't surprise me if the true incidence of schizophrenia were higher therein than in the West. To a degree truly schizophrenic dangerous muslims deserve sympathy like non-muslim schizophrenics. But we shouldn't overlook that the muslim religion intentionally weaponizes its lower functioning members for martyrdom fodder. Having a lot of lower IQ or mentally ill followers is a significant resource for muslim leaders trying to expand their power. Whereas the same would be an heartily accepted burden of responsibility for Christians, who are taught to protect and nurture the weak rather than to employ them as suicide bombers. That difference needs to be stressed. The higher functioning enablers of muslim schizophrenic jihadi's, and the muslim religious design itself needs to be blamed and held responsible for the results of their malicious guidance to their mentally ill members.

60 posted on 08/15/2017 12:07:45 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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