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To: Jim 0216
...the next objective to meet that goal is restoring the constitutional independent sovereignty of the states.

Well, that sounds great, high minded even. Except for the whole body of existing law and SCOTUS decisions that have eviscerated the 10th amendment.

Getting the states straightened out also means among other things getting more non-politician, America-lovers into Congress.

Sounds great, but we can't even get McCain, Ryan, McConnell or Collins voted out.

We MUST get the right guy in the WH in 2024 to finish what Trump has started - a fearless fighter who is ready, willing, and able to dismantle the unconstitutional 80% of the federal government...

Yeah, well, even if we find that guy, the President is not the king so he will need congress to send him such legislation. They never will. It isn't in THEIR interest to do so.

If we the people are going to fix this mess we'll have to go around the swamp and shove it down their throats.

From my perch the choice looks like article V or CWII. Because most of what you say we must do isn't on the existing political menu.

166 posted on 08/12/2017 2:50:51 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi
existing law and SCOTUS decisions that have eviscerated the 10th amendment

Don't you think it's about time to attack and fix that the way the Lying left did to the Constitution and nineteenth century precedent?

can't even get McCain, Ryan, McConnell or Collins voted out

If the American People don't rise up and claim their freedom and their Constitution they have no one to blame but themselves. But I see a move afoot to change all of that and Trump is the first sign. More to come I think.

most of what you say we must do isn't on the existing political menu

The only way it will get on the "political menu" is if these DC scoundels feel threatened by American voters who have woken up and are going after them. Risk of losing their cushy political jobs is the only motivation for these corrupt politicians to get the right things on their agenda.

Article V as an overall solution is actually a weak work around. The issue isn't changing the Constitution. The issue is ENFORCING the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. It would help however to repeal the 17th Amendment and put in a term-limit amendment. But Article V is a long ways off and is fraught with many pitfalls.

You sound like a POW. Like you've acquiesced to this tyranny. Well, I feel sorry for you, but there are some of us who will never accept tyranny and will fight for freedom. Many have lost faith and love for freedom. Many don't even understand freedom. But many others do.

This isn't unlike the times of our founding. Many were loyal to English tyranny. The patriots were in the minority. But with their ardor and the Divine Providence of Almighty God, America miraculously became a notation and America will now miraculously recover her Free Constitutional Republic.

171 posted on 08/12/2017 4:19:50 PM PDT by Jim W N
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