Posted on 08/11/2017 4:42:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
American supercarriers are simply beautiful. They embody global power and project strength.
The British ship looks like Kanye’s limo.
Wow, the sun really has set on the British empire.
....the way the NYT will report it
Dream Class ships are the largest in the Carnival Cruise Line Fleet. Dream Class ships include the Carnival Dream and Carnival Magic. Ships in this class have a gross tonnage of 130,000 and a length of 1,004 feet, with a cruising speed of 20 knots. They can carry up to 3,652 guests, based on double occupancy.
Interesting that the Queen’s Ferry has two towers....
The ‘Liz’ needs a reactor, another hundred feet+ length, some more beam and catapults. And straighten out that deck. It’s warped.
Some Sea Harriers would help.
It probably has something to do with the UK's social class system and the reasons we left it in 1776.
As a fan of beautiful nautical design, I have never cared much for 20th Century onward British warship design from a aesthetic perspective (with a few exceptions)
I always felt that about Japanese warship designs leading up to and during WWII...with few exceptions (Such as the Yamato class, and specific instances of battleships/cruisers/destroyers) they always appeared somewhat homely to me.
German warships in WWII I found to be beautiful, but too few. I think the Germans built them like Swiss watches.
The Soviets had some butt-ugly vessels, though I thought the Kirov class was gorgeous. They are also making some nice looking vessels today. This opinion parallels their aviation industry...their planes are far better looking these days.
As for American vessels, The Iowa class beats all. Then, I love the Virginia class cruisers...and nearly any cruiser built by the US Navy after 1942 looks beautiful. I didn’t care for the look of the Knox frigates, but liked the look of the Spruance class, and love the Arleigh Burkes! (There is something about them that reminds me of a fast ship of sail...perhaps the rake of the mast...:) The Oliver Hazard Perry’s...eh. Almost all American carriers look boss to me, but some of the newer class of littoral vessels have a good looking one (Freedom class) and a weird one (Independence class) and both are problematic from a performance perspective. The San Antonio Class is just plain ugly. The homeliest of all has to be the Zumwalt class, but I look at those as concept ships, even though there may end up being three of them.
Form doesn’t always follow function, but I believe in the old rule of thumb about planes: If it looks good, it probably flies good!
Sure, they are big, but...so are supertankers!
Those cruise ships displace more than a carrier, but a carrier has far more people onboard, ordinance, planes, armor, etc.
Of course, the cruise ships eat better, have shuffleboard and pools, though we always would tell the newbies on the carrier about the great five lane bowling alley and swimming pool...:)
A ship without its weapons is just a floating hotel with a radio.
Has more to do with eliminating the wind turbulence created by the bridge superstructure and it’s negative affect on landing aircraft. Note that “the Island” on the USS GERALD FORD was moved aft. It’s the most distinguishing difference between the FORD and her cousins in the NIMITZ-class. Different solutions to a common problem.
Royal Caribbean has a couple that are 225,000 tons and carry up to 6300 passengers.
I don’t know, does RC let you sing and dance with the serving staff at dinner? :)
Part of the capacity difference is due to different operating procedures. U.S. carriers park aircraft on the flight deck between air ops, and sometimes even during. The Royal Navy has always stored their aircraft on the hanger deck. That has historically resulted in smaller air wings.
The USN carrier fleet came of age fighting the IJN. We needed every damn airplane we could muster ... old habits die hard. This one shouldn't die at all.
Iron Duke should not be a frigate. The RN should not be assigning dreadnought names to small ships.
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