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Is College Education Worth It?-The scam of higher education.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | August 8, 2017 | Walter Williams

Posted on 08/08/2017 5:34:19 AM PDT by SJackson

August is the month when parents bid farewell to not only their college-bound youngsters but also a sizable chunk of cash for tuition. More than 18 million students attend our more than 4,300 degree-granting institutions. A question parents, their college-bound youngsters and taxpayers should ask: Is college worth it?

Let's look at some of the numbers. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, "when considering all first-time undergraduates, studies have found anywhere from 28 percent to 40 percent of students enroll in at least one remedial course. When looking at only community college students, several studies have found remediation rates surpassing 50 percent." Only 25 percent of students who took the ACT in 2012 met the test's readiness benchmarks in all four subjects (English, reading, math and science). Just 5 percent of black students and 13 percent of Hispanic students met the readiness benchmarks in all four subjects. The NCSL report says, "A U.S. Department of Education study found that 58 percent of students who do not require remediation earn a bachelor's degree, compared to only 17 percent of students enrolled in remedial reading and 27 percent of students enrolled in remedial math."

The fact of business is that colleges admit a far greater number of students than those who test as being college-ready. Why should students be admitted to college when they are not capable of academic performance at the college level? Admitting such students gets the nation's high schools off the hook. The nation's high schools can continue to deliver grossly fraudulent education — namely, issue diplomas that attest that students can read, write and compute at a 12th-grade level when they may not be able to perform at even an eighth- or ninth-grade level.

You say, "Hold it, Williams. No college would admit a student who couldn't perform at an eighth- or ninth-grade level." During a recent University of North Carolina scandal, a learning specialist hired to help athletes found that during the period from 2004 to 2012, 60 percent of the 183 members of the football and basketball teams read between fourth- and eighth-grade levels. About 10 percent read below a third-grade level. These were students with high-school diplomas and admitted to UNC. And it's not likely that UNC is the only university engaging in such gross fraud.

. Many students who manage to graduate don't have a lot to show for their time and money. New York University professor Richard Arum, co-author of "Academically Adrift: Limited Learning on College Campuses," says that his study shows that more than a third of students showed no improvement in critical thinking skills after four years at a university. That observation is confirmed by the many employers who complain that lots of recent graduates cannot seem to write an email that will not embarrass the company. In 1970, only 11 percent of adult Americans held college degrees. These degree holders were viewed as the nation's best and brightest. Today, over 30 percent hold college degrees, with a significant portion of these graduates not demonstrably smarter or more disciplined than the average American. Declining academic standards and grade inflation tend to confirm employer perceptions that college degrees say little about job readiness.

What happens to many of these ill-prepared college graduates? If they manage to become employed in the first place, their employment has little to do with their degree. One estimate is that 1 in 3 college graduates have a job historically performed by those with a high-school diploma or the equivalent. According to Richard Vedder, who is a professor of economics at Ohio University and the director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity, we had 115,000 janitors, 16,000 parking lot attendants, 83,000 bartenders and about 35,000 taxi drivers with bachelor's degrees in 2012.

The bottom line is that college is not for everyone. There is absolutely no shame in a youngster's graduating from high school and learning a trade. Doing so might earn him much more money than many of his peers who attend college.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: college; education; highereducation; scams; walterwilliams
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To: SJackson

No. Next question.

JoMa


61 posted on 08/08/2017 9:29:17 AM PDT by joma89
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To: Obadiah

We also went the community college route. Currently three of my kids have good degrees from prestigious or reasonable schools and no debts. Two are high earning software engineers and one is a pt teacher but that was her goal as she is also a homemaker


62 posted on 08/08/2017 9:55:15 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: SJackson
As a "baby boomer" I recognize how much we've contributed to the problem. Back in the mid-1950s to early 1970s, the only people who routinely sent their kids to college were parents who had also gone to college, because they recognized the value of a college degree, and they made enough money to send their kids to school.

Nobody took out loans for school, but they didn't have to. I went to a state school, and tuition per year cost under $1000. When I got out of the Navy in 1970, I managed to put myself through college by working after classes, with the help of a $300 monthly stipend from the GI Bill, and no post-graduation debt.

Believe it or not, back then businesses actually valued a liberal arts degree, because it at least showed that you were capable of abstract thought and were teachable, never mind that it didn't train you for anything specific or job related.

Just having a degree in ANYTHING put you in one class above other job applicants, meaning you entered the workforce with preferential placement over people without a degree. Basically, high school-only grads would only be interviewed for clerical positions, whereas a college graduate would get interviewed for a management trainee position. In other words, a college degree made you "special" because only a minority of people had them.

Then the gubmint got involved and do-gooder Democrats decided that EVERYBODY had to go to college (well, women and minorities anyway), and started shoveling taxpayer dollars into student loan schemes allowing anybody to go, prepared for college or not.

Now millenials with $100,000 in college loans and a degree in Lesbian Dance Theory are left wondering where all those high paying jobs they were promised are, because a mere college degree doesn't make anybody "special" anymore.

Good luck finding a job that pays enough to pay off your student loans, kids. I just wish that your parents (my generation) had been able to recognize what was happening, but it transpired very slowly, kind of like untreated cancer.

63 posted on 08/08/2017 1:14:45 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: SJackson

Universities still teach real disciplines, but they also dedicate an inordinate amount of resources to fostering the left side of the culture war.


64 posted on 08/08/2017 1:34:43 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: joegoeny
I was middleclass while my kids grew up so we selected catholic school for Primary School and High school and Boy Scouts for leadership training. My two boys then went to State University (low tuition) for Engineering Degrees. Both boys got jobs right out of the box and the feed back is that their supervisors love them. Its obvious that I am proud of them, but the point is that I kept them out of the public school system as I felt Catholic school was more conservative at that time, and with Boyscouts they underwent Junior Leadership training. And based on their accomplishments these were the best decisions I ever made.(Did I mention they are both Eagles?):D

Congrats. I am in the middle of going the same route with my kids in Catholic Schools. It tends to make the family pretty broke. I won't be paying for college. They'll have to manage on their own, unfortunately. I'll help them through it. But it will be done very cost effectively. My son is in competitive sports and he loves it. My daughter is managing her own business on the side while in school at 15 years old (with help from mom and dad).

65 posted on 08/08/2017 2:03:13 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Lou L
A degree such as that prepares you for one job: a graduate student in a Master's of Women's Studies program!

That makes sense. I suppose they must also offer a PHD in Women Studies as well. Would you then parley this into a career as a professional student? Maybe start over in the field of Diversity Studies. After that you could do Humanity Studies. By then you should be qualified as a fortune teller. Right?

66 posted on 08/08/2017 2:06:48 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Bull Man
Every semester my classes are filled with kids whom either shouldn’t be there, or don’t really want to be there.

I tutored a law school writing class and several people wrote like 6th graders. It was so bad! Then I taught some college courses at a graduate level (in a different area than law), and again, they were so bad! I'd classify them as the middle tier in high school back when I attended high school. Not nowadays, obviously.

67 posted on 08/08/2017 6:38:25 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Mouton

EXCELLENT advice. WISE advice.

Most can’t differentiate between knowledge and wisdom.


68 posted on 08/09/2017 5:06:17 AM PDT by doberville
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To: SJackson

Walter Williams BUMP!


69 posted on 08/09/2017 9:26:02 AM PDT by 4Liberty ("Russia"? Communists have been infiltrating Hollywood & US academia for decades..........)
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To: Horen
education is a risk sometimes, but it always gives you employment opportunities. Even though, you think your time and efforts don't worth it. I remember how difficult it is to study, but 2 years ago when I was a student of the college, I used college essay writing service from time to time to be able to earn money in a cafe. And today I have an opportunity to find a good job!
70 posted on 12/20/2017 7:23:38 AM PST by Horen
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To: Horen
Yeah, you're right I also used such service for writing my papers. And after ending college I made writing my profession
71 posted on 01/18/2018 7:36:06 AM PST by DmitryB
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To: SJackson
My favorite part

During a recent University of North Carolina scandal, a learning specialist hired to help athletes found that during the period from 2004 to 2012, 60 percent of the 183 members of the football and basketball teams read between fourth- and eighth-grade levels. About 10 percent read below a third-grade level. These were students with high-school diplomas and admitted to UNC. And it's not likely that UNC is the only university engaging in such gross fraud.

72 posted on 01/18/2018 7:46:22 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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