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To: rx; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; humblegunner
Just for clarity - a side by side image of the some of the things that rx/butter are calling "saw cuts" versus how they look in place on an engine.

It is clear that the two straight angular cuts are not "saw cuts" by underwater frogmen but rather manufactured cuts in the mounting frame. The other fractures in the diagonal arms of the mounting assembly are irregular and not simply "saw cuts". Probably caused by the plane rolling around on the rocky bottom as explained by the recovery team and the NTSB.

204 posted on 08/17/2017 1:01:04 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

You are disparaging the fine work done by the
Ninja Frogmen Underwater Aircraft Shop.

You better stop it or Soros will start sending you money.


205 posted on 08/17/2017 1:08:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 4Zoltan; Fantasywriter; butterdezillion; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks; Natufian; SaveFerris; ...
All should note 4Zoltan's intellectual dishonesty at work!

She/He says, "other fractures..in the mounting assembly are irregular and not simply "saw cuts." So not "simply." Is that like, "[f]for saw cuts on which the cutter had cut 90% through the member, it caused an irregular breakage of the remainder?" I might accept that in a couple of cases--maybe in that upper saw cut here, immediately below. It looks like a saw cut for which the last little arcing piece just might have broken off.

Look at how 4Zoltan misleadingly cropped out the cut on the lower member in her post #204, which I have here above enlarged, and see how--at minimum, each of the upper and lower members clearly manifest straight line cuts that in no way were "crushed and battered in a manner consistent with being repeatedly rolled over on a hard, uneven surface by wave action." as the NTSB investigators put in their report. On the lower piece, there are even paint-cleared scrapings that remind one of a plumber's pipe cutter. So, yes, maybe they had that tool, too.

Above we see another couple of human-intervention separations that look like a Jaws of Life. So it does appear that there were perhaps three or more people causing these separations.

One cannot say at least two of these three in the following example are anything other than saw cuts. Just one saw cut would prove the point that this engine was cut off its firewall, but see the lengths to which her intellectual dishonesty will allow herself to be taken. See how he/she cropped my picture! See how she/he attempts to call a clear saw cut to be called a "Deformed tube fracture!" That would be like looking at the middle, torn strands of a 20-foot thick professionally-felled tree and saying, "See, the forces of nature must've blown that tree over!"

While it's true that some mount pieces might look to be saw cuts when they're not, the many other cuts that can be seen (hoses, cables, tubes and ducts, as well!) all make it plain that there had to have been people performing these cuts before the salvor said he came upon these pieces already lying separate on the ocean floor, which the NTSB repeated for their report. The NTSB is by no means filled with incompetents and their entire team would have had to have been compromised by one or more corrupt influences to have come to the conclusions they did, that “[t]he airframe was fragmented into numerous pieces, which were crushed and battered in a manner consistent with being repeatedly rolled over on a hard, uneven surface by wave action."

And these other cuts, too, that 4Zoltan conveniently choose to crop out.

There's no "crush[ing] and batter[ing] in a manner consistent with being repeatedly rolled over on a hard, uneven surface by wave action on any of those arrowed connections at all!

Even a first and only saw cut would prove human intervention and that the NTSB was compromised. If one were intellectually honest, after seeing the twentieth saw cut that couldn't be explained away as some kind of "fracture" one would have to give it up, but no, we're seeing utter intellectual depravity here. You're totally compromised shills, that here have tried to explain this away or claim it's all "crap"! The utter dishonesty of you folk is such that you lead Conservative observers from these parts to wonder how, without substantial payments, you'd been willing to degrade yourselves so badly.

And this is just one of the several nooks and crannies of this hoaxed event, all of which manifested features of this being a hoax. That you folk don't admit any of it, yet keep on shilling really makes the rest of us wonder what's it's going to take to get people like you to return to a civilization where honest arguments can be had on the basis of facts and evidence, so those discussions aren't so totally skewed by political interests, job promotions/security, payola, etc.

Conservatives desperately want such a world, but we know there are others who are unperturbed to see their neighbors destroying police cares, halting cars of innocents on the roadways, only to let the mob destroy their property, assault the driver, burn the car and twirl socks with rocks into the faces of anyone who would get in the way. That apparently gives some of you no pause whatsoever, even while you cheer on the destruction of a civilization's historical monuments.

211 posted on 08/17/2017 4:16:11 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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