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As old hatreds shatter EU harmony... no wonder Poland's demanding billions from Germany (tr)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 08/03/2017 | Dominic Sandbrook

Posted on 08/04/2017 8:12:21 AM PDT by DFG

The scene is a German town called Gleiwitz close to the Polish border. Here, on the night of August 31, 1939, a small group of Nazi intelligence agents, dressed in Polish uniforms, burst into a German radio station. There they broadcast anti-German messages in Polish before dumping the bodies of prisoners they had just hauled out of the Dachau concentration camp, who had been made up to resemble Polish saboteurs then shot and mutilated to make identification impossible. A few hours later, Adolf Hitler rose in the Reichstag and announced that the Gleiwitz incident — which he, entirely deceitfully, blamed on anti-German saboteurs — was the final straw.

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Full title: Six million Poles slaughtered by the Nazis. Cities flattened. A population reduced to slaves. As old hatreds shatter EU harmony... no wonder Poland's demanding billions from Germany, writes DOMINIC SANDBROOK
1 posted on 08/04/2017 8:12:21 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

What is the land worth that Poland got from Germany?


2 posted on 08/04/2017 8:15:45 AM PDT by fso301
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Probably more than the 1/3 of Poland that was annexed by Russia.


3 posted on 08/04/2017 8:17:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: DFG

And Germany got The Marshall Plan, while Poland got squat.


4 posted on 08/04/2017 8:17:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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There’s should to be a statute of limitations on such demands. After all, you can’t have Russia demanding money from France because of Napoleon’s 1812 invasion.

Having said that, go Poland! Demand the moon! Anything that will keep the Germans off-balance and upset Merkel is okay with me.


5 posted on 08/04/2017 8:19:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: DFG

That was quite a while back.

After the war the USSR confiscated Eastern Poland and took away the East Prussia from Germany and gave it to Poland up rooting millions.

Recall that USSR did its own purge in Eastern Poland after splitting the country with Nazi Germany.


6 posted on 08/04/2017 8:20:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: Leaning Right
My understanding is the 'Rus' that founded what would ultimately become Russia were vikings.

I say give Russia back to Sweden.

Then maybe Sweden would grow a backbone and send the jihadis back to their desert huts.

7 posted on 08/04/2017 8:27:36 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Poland would do much better to demand exit from the EU.


8 posted on 08/04/2017 8:30:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You can drive coast to coast without ever crossing a district run by Democrats! MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Poland has some scores to settle with Sweden.


9 posted on 08/04/2017 8:30:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DFG

the Final Settlement With Respect to Germany signed in 1990 would seem to preclude any such claim by Poland.


10 posted on 08/04/2017 8:30:56 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: BenLurkin
Probably more than the 1/3 of Poland that was annexed by Russia.

And where are the calls for compensation by Russia?

11 posted on 08/04/2017 8:30:57 AM PDT by fso301
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> I say give Russia back to Sweden. < Hmm...wouldn't it be better to give Sweden to Russia? I think the guy with the hat would be more effective in dealing with jihadists then the gals would be.


12 posted on 08/04/2017 8:36:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: DFG

Germany is once again trying to destroy Poland. This time with m*slim immigrants. Poland is resisting.


13 posted on 08/04/2017 8:38:15 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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With Merkel as Chancellor and her Muslims,Poland isn’t Germany’s worst problem.


14 posted on 08/04/2017 8:56:12 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide
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" Poland has some scores to settle with Sweden."

Little know history of Sweeden/Poland.......1700 or there about.....Sweeden had an army in Poland.

Years ago, I spoke with an engineer who I was told emigrated from Poland. He confirmed that he was born in Poland. I told him his last name didn't sound Polish. He said it's Sweedish and proceeded to tell me about the 1700s when the Sweedish king sent his army to fight in Poland. At the end of the war he said many Swedish soldiers chose to say in Poland and there are many Poles with a Sweedish ancestor.

15 posted on 08/04/2017 9:01:57 AM PDT by crazy scenario ( We can't take you anywhere!)
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True. That’s why although technically Poles are considered to be Slavs, many have Swedish or German ancestry, as well.

That’s one of the reasons that the Nazis actually feared the Poles more than the other Slavs, and felt they had to be eliminated, because they were more Aryan, and thus, more capable of resisting Nazi rule, if they weren’t eradicated. Also why they kidnapped many Polish children and sent them to Germany to be “Germanized.”


16 posted on 08/04/2017 9:06:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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" Nazis actually feared the Poles more than the other Slavs, and felt they had to be eliminated"

I Don't know about that.......a lot of Poland has, at various times, have gone back & forth between German & Polish control. Historically both Poles & Germans can claim the same lands.

Therefore, if Polish citizens with claims to land are eliminated, no conflicting future land claims will exist.

Territorial changes after WWI caused displacement of Germans from land that became Polish. As well, many Germans were forced off their properties in the aftermath of WWII because Polish borders were pushed West.

In spite of current treaties between Germany & Poland, there are German groups whose families were forced off of private property by the Polish government after WWII, that have formed organizations to recover their ancestral German properties from Poland.

17 posted on 08/04/2017 9:43:52 AM PDT by crazy scenario ( We can't take you anywhere!)
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To: crazy scenario

Well, Germans will get that land back as soon as Poland gets back Lwów.


18 posted on 08/04/2017 9:46:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Poland has some scores to settle with Sweden.

The Swedes looted all the could from Poland and Lithuania during The Deluge. Some of the loot has shown up in the Vistual river during low water. Swedish collections are full of stolen loot.

19 posted on 08/04/2017 10:33:05 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: fso301
What is the land worth that Poland got from Germany?

A lot less after the Russians stripped every piece of machinery they could cart off, not to mention the expense of re-settling about 3 million Poles from territory seized by the Soviet Union.

20 posted on 08/04/2017 11:52:52 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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