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This Is a Safe Space. No Jews Allowed-Why are some progressives embracing overt anti-Semitism?
Slate ^ | 7-24-17 | Mark Joseph Stern

Posted on 07/27/2017 3:40:30 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Netz

>>I am not familiar with the Law of Non-Contradiction between Islam and Christianity. What does it state?

The Law of Non-Contradiction states that something cannot be simultaneously both x and not x.

Christianity states that Jesus is the Son of God, one of the three persons of the Godhead. Islam states that this is the highest form of blasphemy. It is called shirk and is punishable by death. Simultaneously x and not x.

But the truly disturbing theme in your post is the lack of God as anything more than a concept that human religions are based upon. You are right that all three religions are equal if there is not real God, if he is just a construct of the human imagination. You write about history, but ignore the work of God in that history. I include the work of a living and very real God in mine.

BTW, I don’t know any Christian who is awarded points for conversions. Maybe in some liberal Arminian churches But I stay away from their heresies. A converted Jew is no different than a converted Atheist or a converted Cultural Christian. There are no points awarded becuase God did the work.


41 posted on 07/31/2017 3:57:48 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

The G-d element is a matter of belief.

All three Monotheistic faiths believe in a a living G-d, that’s of coarse the base of it all.

I am trying to have a rational discussion with you about belief systems and their differences.

G-d does not understand all the mortal squabbling about who is right or wrong regarding a belief in Him.

I cannot negate Islam or Christianity or Judaism or apply a mathematical/logical construct to have one or two of the three cancel out. I think you’re trying to say if Christianity is true then Islam cannot exist (x or x) only.

As a Jew I can say that my belief system was handed down from Mount Sinai to the entire nation of Israel (roughly 600,000 souls) at the same moment, witnessed by the entire nation at one shot. Not passed down from a small cadre of elite.

So, if ALL the Jews witnessed it and swore to observe it does that negate Christ? Christ adhered to this view.

It is not my intention to use a belief process of elimination to cancel you or a Muslim out AS TRUTH. I am merely stating that all three claim most of the same things because their root is the same, for all mankind.

How one PRACTICES it is where so many differ...


42 posted on 07/31/2017 5:54:22 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

There are lots of powerful, influential Jewish conservatives, too.

Like me.

There are Jews all over. They tend to be at the “forefront” of everything.

Especially charities - even Christian ones.

I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of.

Have a nice day!


43 posted on 07/31/2017 6:23:54 AM PDT by golux
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To: originalbuckeye

Well, I’m one of your Jewish FRiends.


44 posted on 07/31/2017 6:25:15 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux
There are lots of powerful, influential Jewish conservatives, too.Like me.

Of course there...anyone who's been paying attention in this country understands that.Being an Irish Catholic myself it's believed by many...rightly or wrongly...that we have a strong tendency to vote Rat and it cannot be denied that many of us do.I'm constantly having battles with family regarding politics.In fact,my favorite aunt (who was my surrogate mother because my real Mom died when I was young) was a die-hard Rat voter.

However,my understanding of recent decades in this country suggests that the majority (perhaps even 80-90%) of American Jews vote Rat and give to Rats as well as play pivotal roles in the Rat Party.

And if,by chance,I'm correct in that belief it's beyond incredible,IMO,that Jews would be barred from "progressive" events like "gay pride" parades.

45 posted on 07/31/2017 6:41:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: golux

Of course there = Of course there are


46 posted on 07/31/2017 6:43:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Netz

>>As a Jew I can say that my belief system was handed down from Mount Sinai to the entire nation of Israel (roughly 600,000 souls) at the same moment, witnessed by the entire nation at one shot. Not passed down from a small cadre of elite.

Really? I thought that was the Tem Commandments? Leviticus, etc was written outside of that single revelation to the whole nation of Israel. The Talmud was written by men much later and isn’t that what permits you to negate the temple and priestly requirements of Leviticus?


47 posted on 07/31/2017 7:18:18 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Netz

>> I am merely stating that all three claim most of the same things because their root is the same, for all mankind.

I am telling you that this is not true. Islam does not claim the same things as Christianity. It claims opposite things.

If God is just a “matter of belief” then there is no God. To get this back to the OP, this is the problem with those 80% of American Jews who vote with the Progressives. God is just a cultural artifact for many of them, as he is for a lot of Progressive “Christians” too.


48 posted on 07/31/2017 7:22:48 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

OK, I can agree with you on that one! As you stated:

To get this back to the OP, this is the problem with those 80% of American Jews who vote with the Progressives. God is just a cultural artifact for many of them, as he is for a lot of Progressive “Christians” too.

Yes, it is a sad fact that most Jews are suffering from what I earlier termed TLH or Terminal Liberal Hemorrhoids. As they move further and further away from Tradition, Torah and a spiritual Jewish life, the embrace false G-ds like JUSTICE, JUSTICE, JUSTICE and the ACLU they are blinded by such Sophists as Obama and the Left.

You should know though that there are some very proud and strong Conservatives among that Jewish mass who reject the false G-ds...


49 posted on 07/31/2017 10:42:25 PM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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