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The Rift Between President Trump and AG Sessions is Very Real and Very Valid…
The Last Refuge ^ | July 25, 2017 | sundance

Posted on 07/25/2017 7:33:44 PM PDT by Bratch

When President Trump made his initial remarks reflecting disappointment in Attorney General Jeff Sessions it was initially unnerving.  The subsequent fallout from the public criticism has united the NeverTrump crowd, Cruzbots and professionally GOPe, to defend the honor of the much beloved former Senator.   The opportunity to bash Trump is simply an ancillary benefit.

Conversely, the MAGA community has largely portrayed the rift as if the Presidential critique was part of a larger strategy between the President and Attorney General. If we wait long enough some mysterious master plan will eventually to be discovered.

However, the subsequent POTUS tweets and comments do not indicate any joint strategy at all.  What they do actually show is a genuine disappointment and frustration with the focus of Jeff Sessions; and the cabinet member’s apparent unwillingness to confront the corruption within the DOJ and by extension the larger DC swamp.

It is not accidental the frustration and disappointment surface as the various opposition groups to the Trump presidency begin to target the entire Trump family.   Despite some opinion to the contrary, Donald Trump does have a nuclear trigger point; target his family and you’ll find it quick.  Just ask anyone who has known him for any substantive amount of time.

 

President Trump affirms his ‘confidence’ in Jeff Sessions’ ability to do the swamp draining and simultaneously expresses ‘disappointment’ that AG Sessions chooses not to.  Confidence and disappointment are not mutually exclusive sentiments.

Under the former administration the Department of Justice was weaponized politically and legally by the executive branch against ordinary American citizens.  A political example is the joint efforts between the DOJ and IRS to target political opposition, the Tea Party and organizations like True the Vote.

The legal examples of DOJ weaponization extend from “Fast and Furious” gun running ops to the targeting of the manufacturer of Gibson Guitar, and to legal cases involving local police departments like Ferguson Missouri, Baltimore Maryland and individuals like George Zimmerman.  These are only a few examples; there are many more.

Attorneys’ General Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder did not participate in these examples alone.  Under their guidance there exists a myriad of corrupt officials, black hats within the DOJ, who participated in all aspects of the weaponization.

This underlying corrupt architecture is what Jeff Sessions is choosing to ignore.  This is the source of Trump’s frustration and disappointment.  These deep state black hats within the DOJ are transparently not being confronted; meanwhile AG Sessions is running around the country with Rod Rosenstein holding pressers and proclaiming victories.

Yes, it’s great to finally have a law enforcement agenda with border policy, drug enforcement, and the capture of criminal enterprises with pedophile rings and human trafficking.  Yes, all of that is great.  However, there’s a larger issue at DOJ central where the refusal to confront the corrupt aspects within the organization only serves to fuel and enable the continuance of a corrupt swamp in Washington DC.

The corrupt institutional system that AG Sessions is apparently refusing to confront, are now targeting the personal family of the presidency.  What usefulness is there in winning the small stuff if Sessions is refusing to confront the larger and more dangerous systemic corruption.

President Trump is an existential threat to the entire apparatus of the DC swamp. And so far AG Sessions appears content to ignore, or at best is prioritizing confrontation with the swamp at a much lower level of importance.

The commentary by President Trump should be considered against the totality of this backdrop.  Winter is here; the time for confrontation is now. Mild mannerisms are not a valuable skill-set when engaged in epic confrontation.  President Trump was not elected to nibble around the edges nor does his possess such a tempered disposition toward half-measures leaving the effort to someone else.

As a consequence, President Trump won’t let up on the pressure being applied to Jeff Sessions until the Attorney General agrees to clean his own house (and neighborhood) before journeying off to distant needs and righteous law enforcement endeavors.  The most important battle is in Washington DC.  So long as Sessions ignores this issue the pressure will remain.

Eventually, if the historic track repeats, Jeff Sessions will tender his resignation and an important heart-to-heart meeting of purpose will follow.

Whether that resignation is accepted or not will be entirely dependent on the disposition and willingness of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to confront the corrupt enterprise that has encircled Washington DC and metastasized its bile.

The Attorney General might not actually possess the skills, the instincts, to lead that disinfecting endeavor; or he might not desire to participate in an epic battle of such a politically adversarial nature.

Winter is here.

The choice will ultimately be his.

Christopher Walken - The Lion

 


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agsessions; draintheswamp; second100days; sessions; sundance; swamp; trump; trump45; trumpdoj; trumpsessions
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To: dragnet2
Since you evaded the question, let me put it this way.

I didn't evade anything. If you haven't known for years that some conservative voters will not vote for a candidate they disagree with on social issues, or some other issue critical to them, then you aren't very knowledgeable about a segment of conservative voters.

Some wouldn't vote for a pro-choice Republican.

Some wouldn't vote for a Mormon, or based on some other question of religious doctrine.

Some wouldn't vote for someone with a reputation for marital infidelity, or someone who's been divorced, or someone who appears to have no religious faith, or one who seems to have many bad habits, or poor morals.

Ever heard of one-issue voters? They do exist, voters who, if a candidate does not agree with them on their most important issue, they will not vote for the candidate no matter how many other issues they agree on.

Such conservatives would most likely skip voting for a particular office rather than to vote for a party's candidate with whom they have very few agreements.

You need to pull yourself out of your straight-jacketed thinking and realize that everyone does not think like you.

I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite. But I was never discussing what I would do, or you, or any individual, but how a particular segment of conservative voters can be one-issue voters.

161 posted on 07/26/2017 3:18:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
there is some percentage of them who will stay home on election day if they find a candidate's behavior or attitude objectionable, even if it helps a Dim in the election.

I just don't understand why you or ANYONE would vote for a candidate who did not support what they support?

I would never do that. You said you'd never do that. So why would anyone else do that?

162 posted on 07/26/2017 3:21:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88
Ever heard of one-issue voters?

One issue? You mean like voters who want secured borders?

163 posted on 07/26/2017 3:27:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

You mean you're open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

164 posted on 07/26/2017 3:30:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
So why would anyone else do that?

Because some voters do have one issue that is so important to them, they will not vote for anyone who disagrees with them on that issue. It's that critical a moral question to them.

Abortion is probably the best example, but there are others.

I think it is a pretty small percentage of conservatives, probably less than 5% on most critical issues, maybe a fair amount higher for abortion.

165 posted on 07/26/2017 3:32:19 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

You mean you're open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

166 posted on 07/26/2017 3:35:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

If the only other candidate was a pro illegal immigrant Democrat candidate such as Obama or Hillary. Your description is basically what anyone who voted for McCain voted for since he’d been one of the main amnesty pushers in 2006 and 2007, just before he ran for president in 2008.

The other candidate can be so bad that it prevents me from being a one-issue vote.


167 posted on 07/26/2017 3:47:19 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

You mean you're open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

Btw, I'm not describing anything, or talking about a specific candidates.

I'm simply asking you a couple basic questions.

Would it be correct to say these issues are negotiable from your point of view as a voter?

168 posted on 07/26/2017 3:53:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

Lets try this again. Here are the 2 questions:

Are you open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

Would it be correct to say these issues are negotiable from your point of view as a voter?

169 posted on 07/26/2017 3:58:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88

Ya know from some that alleged I was, “Straight-jacketed thinking” you sure seem to have difficulties answering simple legitimate questions which were based on your own statement, btw.


170 posted on 07/26/2017 4:04:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I answered you in #167 and that response can be applied to any of the questions you continue to repeat. If you don’t yet understand what a one-issue voter is, you probably never will.

I’m leaving it for a while. The system is extremely slow and it’s taking several minutes to post, or refresh, or do anything.

Keying this at 6:24:15 CDT


171 posted on 07/26/2017 4:31:16 PM PDT by Will88
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To: dragnet2

My last post took about seven minutes to go through Preview and to finally post. But it looks like the problem might have been between me and the FR servers as other sites also became very slow. Left a while, rebooted and all had cleared up.

I guess we were finished for today, anyway.


172 posted on 07/26/2017 5:34:56 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
The great majority includes Trump supporters in the entire nation and you have no indication of what they think. And Trump only has put off a small percentage of supporters and his margin of victory is gone.

We still do not know how much cheating and fraud was committed by the Rat party.

We know there was a lot of cheating one thing! We will never see an investigation is the real sad part!

173 posted on 07/26/2017 5:35:59 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: TheConservativeTejano
I agree with that and hope Trump's election commission can conduct a thorough study. I still recall what happened in Detroit during that recount where they found ballot boxes with totals shown on the outside greater than the number of ballots inside the boxes.

And another little incident was recalled just today in a thread.

Ballot box stuffing in Broward County - FR threads

There's a heck of lot to be investigated if the commission can get to the problem areas.

174 posted on 07/26/2017 5:46:09 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

Here are the 2 questions:

1. Are you open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

2. Would it be correct to say these issues are negotiable from your point of view as a voter?

These are general questions not specifically about Hillary, Bush or anyone else specifically.

Instead of evading the questions, answer them.

175 posted on 07/26/2017 6:32:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

Here are the 2 questions:

1. Are you open to supporting a pro illegal immigrant candidate if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

2. Would it be correct to say these issues are negotiable from your point of view as a voter?

These are general questions not specifically about Hillary, Bush or anyone else specifically.

Instead of evading the questions, answer them.

176 posted on 07/26/2017 6:32:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Will88

I don’t disagree with what your saying but Trump is not a political operative and we all knew this, his brashness really isn’t any worse than the lying, and greediness that has infected Washington, meaning his faults I would consider far less worse than the swamp we have to deal with in Washington. He’s just handling his disappointment like a parent who’s kids in the grocery store are running amok, with public humliation. I’m not sure if that is the right thing or not because we don’t know what Trump and Sessions talk about in private.


177 posted on 07/26/2017 6:39:03 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: dragnet2
The answers, as before, are readily available to the typical reader in what I've already posted.

All your attempts at hairsplitting are silly. It's easily understood what a one-issue voter is and I am not one, mainly because the Dim candidates are all so objectionable on so many levels, and on most all issues, that they don't even get a consideration.

So, even though immigration law enforcement is my most important issue, the Dims are so objectionable, and they are practically 100% pro-illegal, they are never even a possibility for my vote in any statewide or national election.

And I don't vote for third party candidates with no hope of winning.

178 posted on 07/26/2017 7:19:40 PM PDT by Will88
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To: dragnet2

One additional comment. In Republican presidential primaries, until 2016, it was mostly a question of which candidate was actually being honest about their position on immigration enforcement and amnesty. Many talked out of both sides of their mouths and outright lied at times.

So the primaries until 2016 were always an exercise in who can I believe of those claiming to be for enforcement and against amnesty.


179 posted on 07/26/2017 7:50:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
I am almost a one-issue voter on immigration law enforcement, but not quite.

Not quite?

Here are the 2 questions you've evaded repeatedly:

1. Are you open to supporting pro illegal immigrant candidates if they happen to agree with you on other issues?

2. Would it be correct to say these issues are negotiable from your point of view as a voter?

I can easily and quickly answer them. Why can't you?

180 posted on 07/26/2017 8:14:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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