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1 posted on 07/25/2017 7:38:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Shouldn’t congress start with themselves? Do they have any idea what they are voting on? #Corruptocracy


2 posted on 07/25/2017 7:41:39 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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If this is another #insuranceCompany Bailout... they should think twice. Their last bill had 70 Billion taxpayer dollars for insurers, not Americans. #NeverBailout


3 posted on 07/25/2017 7:43:56 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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Don't hold your breath waiting for this.

Suddenly the personal mandate is polling positive after ~ 7 years of polling negative.

While we are looking for those to blame

Trump guarantees new ObamaCare plan covers pre-existing conditions, in bid to pass overhaul plan( Joseph Weber April 30, 2017 Fox News)

Try that wo a personal mandate.

4 posted on 07/25/2017 7:50:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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The Republicans font need to be fixed again, they’ve already lost their balls.

Rather they need a “find’em” operation.


5 posted on 07/25/2017 7:50:41 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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If they do not include the language “The Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare is hereby repealed” in any bill then it still exists and democraps will just put things back in that they might take out


6 posted on 07/25/2017 7:51:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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Absolutely! open the market...


7 posted on 07/25/2017 7:51:38 AM PDT by Openurmind
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What is hampering the GOP repeal effort is that they are not trying to repeal Obamacare.
They are trying to retain 80% of Obamacare.


8 posted on 07/25/2017 7:56:40 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Bungled? More like exposed for the liars they are.


9 posted on 07/25/2017 8:00:55 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Good article by Moore. Hard to disagree with anything he said.

However, not everything he proposed can pass with a simple majority. And there’s no way Democrats will support anything on the bill. Which gets us back to the nuclear option, which McConnell won’t do. IMO, the 60 vote requirement to pass a law breeds corruption.

I’ve often wondered what it would take to get to be able to buy and sell insurance across state lines. What’s preventing it now? Federal or state laws? I’m a states’ rights guy, but it seems like a federal bill allowing it would be within the constitutional purview of Congress because they have the authority to regulate interstate commerce. The only logical reason for preventing it is that insurance companies are lining the pockets of our duly elected representatives.


10 posted on 07/25/2017 8:04:39 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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They need to focus on how for most Americans that ObamaCare insurance premium rates started off in 2014 nearly double the normal market premium rates and then even those sky high rates have even more than doubled into 2017 and they are set to further keep rising in 2018 and 2019 at inflation rates far beyond wage growth and other costs growth.

Here is something I wrote on Oct 25, 2016:

The neverending saga of how the “Affordable Care Act” (aka ObamaCare) is making its mark in the USA continues. The politicians had promised that it would result in lower costs. So where do we stand now? Just 22 months ago I was on the “Bronze HMO 006” plan from Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas with a monthly premium of 193.07. In 2015 the premium changed to 226.57 and in 2016 it changed to 286.29. Today I see on http://www.healthcare.gov that for 2017 its going to be 438.10 per month. That is a hike of 126.9%. Its also a year-over-year jump of 53.0%. Due to a job change (i.e. salaried with benefits; instead of being a contractor) I cancelled my plan and got a health care plan that’s compliant with the new law. But if I were back to doing just contracting I’d be thinking long/hard about doing a much better job of tax planning as it would probably be better to get some “catastrophic plan” and pay the 2.5% ObamaCare tax penalty. See https://www.bcbstx.com/static/tx/pdf/policy-forms/2017/33602TX0460006-01.pdf for details on the plan. Originally the deductible was $6000 but its now $6500.

Another note now:

In early 2014 I was evaluating high-deductible plans that were not ObamaCare-compliant and the price for the one comparable to the 193.07/month policy I ended up getting was approx $110 per month. I opted to get the ObamaCare policy for $83 per month (or 1k per annum) more because the penalty of 1% MAGI would’ve been more than 1K. Thus I made the economic decision to sign up for ObamaCare. If I could get that $110/month policy at double-rate today + pay 2.5% of MAGI then I’d still fare better than I would with the ObamaCare policy. However the market for real health insurance policies has pretty much disappeared thanks to ObamaCare. Thus I either need to keep working for Big Business or “Go Galt” (i.e. stop working so I become a collector of entitlements instead of a taxpayer) if I plan to keep living in the USA. There used to be a third economically feasible option in the USA called “become an entrepreneur” but thanks to ObamaCare it now requires a huge sacrifice for almost all entrepreneurs to set up shop in the USA so as a result the future of successful entrepreneurship on Earth (unless MAGA works & we really fix our health care insurance system woes) is outside the USA :(


11 posted on 07/25/2017 8:14:08 AM PDT by Degaston
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Under a choice-based system, perhaps as many as 80 percent of Americans will see premiums fall by as much as $3,000 to $5,000 a year.

Now who's fabricating numbers? Making promises they can't keep is what cost the Democrats on Obamacare. The GOP is making the same mistake on Trumpcare.

15 posted on 07/25/2017 8:45:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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choice, competition and cost reduction

Choice? Whose choice, and to choose what?

Competition? Competition over what? How little an insurance plan can cover and still be legal? Over how much cash a company can retain for bonuses?

Cost reduction? Whose cost? What costs?

23 posted on 07/25/2017 9:13:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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If all else fails, take it apart piece by piece.


29 posted on 07/25/2017 10:37:22 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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