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WARNING: ALL Federal Government Involvement in Health Care is Unconstitutional
The Politistick ^ | 07/22/2017 | Matthew K. Burke

Posted on 07/23/2017 8:43:40 AM PDT by ForYourChildren

When the sovereign states decided to create a federal government (yes, it was the states that created the federal government and not the other way around), it was not an open-ended arrangement where the states surrendered all of their powers and authority to the new entity.

It was quite to the contrary.

Only certain, specifically identified powers, called “enumerated powers,” were delegated to the federal government from the states — powers that the Founding Fathers believed were best performed on a national basis, duties like “provide for the common defense,” to coin money, establish uniform immigration laws, “Post Offices,” treaties with foreign nations, to regulate (which does not mean restrict) interstate commerce, and a few others. These powers were clearly listed in Article I, Section 8, of the U.S. Constitution.

James Madison, considered the main author and father of the Constitution, wrote in Federalist #45, regarding the Alleged Danger from the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered, the following two sentences that summarize this principle of state sovereignty and a limited federal government:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”

Madison further described the proper role for the soon-to-be federal government versus the unique roles of the individual states:

“The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

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To: ForYourChildren

Amen


22 posted on 07/23/2017 10:13:34 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Medicaid is state-run medical welfare. Congress gives them funding.


23 posted on 07/23/2017 10:33:29 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: ForYourChildren

Right on! And, to add just one more of many things the feds are unconstitutionally involved in: ALL Federal Government Involvement in Education is Unconstitutional.


24 posted on 07/23/2017 10:53:29 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: ForYourChildren

The following is a really good article by the same author, on the same topic.

“All Government ‘Charity’ is Unconstitutional, Says Author of U.S. Constitution”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3567661/posts

http://thepolitistick.com/government-charity-unconstitutional-says-author-u-s-constitution/


25 posted on 07/23/2017 11:01:23 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Never underestimate the power of the Commerce Clause. Revisiting past decisions is long over due but must await a Conservative Court.


26 posted on 07/23/2017 11:02:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: MichaelCorleone
...couldn’t those be administered on the state/local level?

Operationally, probably yes. Politically? I'm afraid we're well past that.

27 posted on 07/23/2017 11:04:00 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: ForYourChildren

A majority of the Supreme Court held that federal government did not have power under the Commerce Clause to establish Obamacare.

And yet, Roberts upheld it purely as a tax.


28 posted on 07/23/2017 11:04:49 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: ForYourChildren

I must say that the biggest blame for the bloated federal government lies with the states themselves. They’ve rolled over repeatedly and allowed the feds’ infringement upon states rights. By not pushing back and resisting the federal government’s unconstitutional mandates the states have become slaves to the very government that they originally created. Thus, we find ourselves living in an evolved republic that barely, if at all, resembles the one intended by the Founders.


29 posted on 07/23/2017 11:05:58 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: All

DC, has become the beast. Broken free of the chains of USConstitution. Conjuring all power onto itself.


30 posted on 07/23/2017 11:09:08 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: ForYourChildren
The constitution? The US constitution is an incredible document, a blueprint for a self governing republic. Unfortunately two amendments passed in 1913 have perverted the original intent of the signers and allowed the federal government to grow and take over people's lives.

The 17th amendment allowed for the direct election of senators. This had the affect of shifting power from the state legislatures to big donors. This amendment should be repealed.

The 18th amendment allowed for a federal income tax. This made every working person a virtual wage slave and gave the federal government the taxing power it needed to grow into the colossus that it has become today. This amendment should also be repealed.

31 posted on 07/23/2017 11:51:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

>>But the alternative is the slow road to tyranny. You may have noticed we’re mighty close to that already.
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We’re already 99% there. It is becoming increasingly clear that our authentic free republic can not be restored working within the existing infrastructure. Jefferson’s Tree of Liberty is parched.


32 posted on 07/23/2017 12:25:13 PM PDT by Kalamata
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To: ForYourChildren

Not only that, compulsion to contract is illegal.

I don’t care what Roberts says. He’s a disgrace.


33 posted on 07/23/2017 1:51:21 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: ForYourChildren

Warning? Heck, everyone here has known this for years.

Not much of a warning.

Warning: Water is wet!


34 posted on 07/23/2017 1:56:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: semimojo
This would mean eliminating Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, Tricare, etc.

Combine them all. After all, they're all the same thing, which is "healthcare".

Then, turn "it" over to the states. Then, the states will realize the error of "their ways", and turn healthcare over to the private sector.

Just keep a few regulations, at the state levels, to insure that there is no abuse by the private sector companies. We do that now with transportation, and we don't control the automakers, and we don't control the airlines, and we don't control repair shops and auto parts stores. We do, however, keep regulations, but they are not as stifling and expensive as what "healthcare" has become.
35 posted on 07/23/2017 2:00:21 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: adorno
We do that now with transportation, and we don't control the automakers, and we don't control the airlines, and we don't control repair shops and auto parts stores.

Technically, outside of the VA we don't control the hospitals or doctors today, but when government is the one paying the bills it might as well be.

36 posted on 07/23/2017 2:38:11 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: MichaelCorleone

“But the alternative is the slow road to tyranny. You may have noticed we’re mighty close to that already.”

Mighty close?

Brother, we have been there for a long time.


37 posted on 07/23/2017 3:04:54 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Great article of the roll of Federal govt vs States


38 posted on 07/23/2017 3:16:50 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ForYourChildren; All
Thank you for referencing that article ForYourChildren. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"WARNING: ALL Federal Government Involvement in Health Care is Unconstitutional"

Yes, in fact, in addition to healthcare, nearly everything that the feds do with respect to domestic policy and domestic spending programs is based on stolen state powers and state revenues uniquely associated with those powers, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.

This is evidenced by the following clarifications of the fed’s constitutionally limited powers by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices.

H O W E V E R …

With the limited federal power clarifications above in mind, low-information voters need to quit pointing their fingers at the feds and wise up to the problem that the voters themselves are the enablers of the unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

From related threads …

More specifically, note that the Founding States had established the federal Senate partly to kill House appropriations bills that not only steal unique state powers, but also steal state revenues uniquely associated with those powers.

In fact, the Founding States had given the power to vote for federal senators uniquely to the state legislatures, not to ordinary citizens. This helped to insure that the interests of the states would be protected in Congress.

But the state legislatures later caved into pressure from misguided citizens who had been spooked by the anti-constitutional republic Progressive Movement to pressure lawmakers to ratify the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A). State legislatures unthinkingly ratified that amendment, foolishly giving up the voices of the state legislatures in Congress by doing so.

The problem is that the corrupt, post-17A ratification Senate now not only helps the likewise corrupt House to pass unconstitutional House appropriations bills like Obamacare, but the Senate also confirms state sovereignty-ignoring activist Supreme Court justices who wrongly declare unconstitutional appropriations laws like Obamacare to be constitutional.

Note that Thomas Jefferson had predicted that ordinary citizens couldn’t be expected to keep on eye on the feds.

“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)

As icing on the Senate’s tax cake, the Senate then confirms judges who order citizens to pay unconstitutional federal taxes.

Tax Court Judges

What a scam ! :^(

The post-17A Senate is the most unconstitutionally powerful office of the corrupt federal government imo.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the swamp (imo) that Pres. Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to patriots to drain the swamp in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.

In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.

Also, unlike incumbent members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.

Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14th Amendment-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

39 posted on 07/23/2017 4:00:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

So what you are saying is we are toast.


40 posted on 07/23/2017 5:00:53 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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