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Richard Dawkins Event in Berkeley Canceled Due To His “Abusive,” “Hurtful” Words
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Posted on 07/21/2017 7:30:37 PM PDT by TigerClaws

While that website doesn’t offer any reason for the cancellation, Jerry Coyne notes that people who had bought tickets received a more detailed email with this explanation:

We regret to inform you that KPFA has canceled our event with Richard Dawkins. We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt — in his tweets and other comments on Islam, so many people.

KPFA does not endorse hurtful speech. While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech. We apologize for not having had broader knowledge of Dawkins views much earlier. We also apologize to all those inconvenienced by this cancellation. Your ticket purchases will automatically be refunded by Brown Paper Tickets.

The world’s most famous atheist criticized Islam and upset people… so he can’t give a talk about science? It’s a ridiculous reason that gets even more absurd when you consider the source.

Dawkins has no doubt put his foot in his mouth on Twitter many times before. There’s a whole generation of people who know him less for his science writing and more for his misguided tweets. We’ve criticized him many times on this site over those tweets, and he’s been “de-platformed” by atheists, too. This isn’t anything new.

I would also say there’s a difference between attempting to make a logical argument, off the cuff, on Twitter (where nuance dies) — and doing it completely ineffectively — and targeting individuals a la trolls who go out of their way to be controversial.

Dawkins isn’t someone who goes around targeting people with hateful or abusive speech. Dumb speech? Absolutely. Offensive speech? Yes, though that’s impossible to avoid when your topic of choice is religion. But hate is in the eye of the beholder, and most of his critics take single tweets more literally than he ever intended.

That’s not to excuse his words. He’s still responsible for what he says. But his entire career has been about persuading people to see things his way, whether or not he’s always succeeded, and he’s well aware that bigotry wouldn’t advance that goal. He’s a strong supporter of progressive Muslims who are trying to modernize the faith “from the inside.” (It’s also worth mentioning that all the “controversial” tweets we’re talking about were made years ago and he’s really mellowed out on Twitter ever since having a minor stroke in early 2016.)

Which tweets about Islam were the people at KPFA so offended by? We never find out. They don’t say. But remember that people at Berkeley (the school) once rescinded an invitation from Bill Maher to deliver a commencement address for the same reason — before eventually reversing course. Ayaan Hirsi Ali was going to get an honorary degree from Brandeis University… until she, too, was accused of anti-Muslim bigotry. (Yep, a victim of female genital mutilation and an advocate for the reformation of Islam was considered an anti-Muslim bigot. Makes you wonder which version of Islam is acceptable to these critics.)

So much for free speech in Berkeley. If Dawkins is too bigoted for their tastes, the list of people who are allowed to discuss controversial topics must be incredibly thin.

And remember: All this is over a book talk about the beauty of science. That means speakers are being invited and canceled over issues they’re not even talking about.

It would’ve been far better for KPFA to let Dawkins speak — and hear what he has to say — before condemning him in advance for vague reasons and not allowing ticket buyers the opportunity to make up their own minds about it.

Since Dawkins’ travel schedule has likely already been planned out, I’ve reached out to his team to find out if he’ll plan another event in Berkeley on that same date.

On a side note, a couple of days after the Dawkins event was supposed to take place, KPFA is sponsoring a speaker who will talk about how to “access the mind through the body, and the body through the mind for creativity, resilience and self-healing.” Pseudoscience is acceptable to them. But criticism of irrational religious ideas is apparently too mean.

They’re also sponsoring a talk by the legendary black comedian Dick Gregory, who is known for challenging accepted beliefs, pushing boundaries, and making people uncomfortable. I hope someone asks him for his thoughts on de-platforming controversial speakers.

***Update***: The Center for Inquiry has issued a statement calling the de-platforming “baseless” and “unconscionable”:

“Richard Dawkins is one of the greatest intellects of our time, with a wealth of wisdom and insight that he looked forward to sharing with his Berkeley audience,” said Robyn Blumner, President and CEO of the Center for Inquiry. “For KPFA to suddenly break its commitment to Richard and the hundreds of people who were so looking forward to seeing and hearing him is unconscionable, and the baseless accusation that Richard has engaged in ‘abusive speech’ is a betrayal of the values KPFA has, until now, been known for.”

“The idea that I have engaged in abusive speech against Islam is preposterous, which even the most rudimentary fact-checking by KPFA would have made clear,” said Prof. Dawkins. “I have indeed strongly condemned the misogyny, homophobia, and violence of Islamism, of which Muslims — particularly Muslim women — are the prime victims. I make no apologies for denouncing those oppressive cruelties, and I will continue to do so.”

Last year, the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science merged with the Center for Inquiry, and Prof. Dawkins joined the CFI board of directors.

“In its forty-one-year history, the Center for Inquiry has fought proudly for human and civil rights, and Richard Dawkins is an invaluable ally for our cause.” said Blumner. “We (including Richard Dawkins himself) strongly opposed President Trump’s misguided and discriminatory Muslim ban. We have been at the forefront of the major civil justice causes of our time, and we have devoted ourselves to countering the outmoded, dogmatic prejudices and misinformation aimed at marginalized groups. It is one of the many reasons why we were proud to be the sole secularist organization invited to join the Know Your Neighbor interfaith coalition, launched in 2015 at the White House.”

“We understand the difference between a people and the beliefs they may hold,” said Blumner, “All of us must be free to debate and criticize Ideas, and harmful ideas must be exposed. It is incredibly disappointing that KPFA does not understand this.”


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To: IronJack
So true. In Canada a citizen can go to jail for speaking out about the cult called Islam but in America our free speech laws prevent such draconian actions so they do the next best thing; they cry racist or hate speech when it fact all it is usually ( I didn't read the tweets) is fair truths about the cult.

They won't be inviting me to make any speeches for sure. Islam and the West are completely incompatible. Anyone who think differently needs to read this.

21 posted on 07/21/2017 8:41:50 PM PDT by Boomer (Imagine a world without leftists. Now imagine a perfect world. Oops; repeating myself again...)
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To: dfwgator

If you or anyone else really wants to understand where the left/progressives are getting their ideas from, the leading thinkers and their Heroes.

Take a few hours and more.

The Salk Institute.

Beyond Belief: Science, Reason, Religion & Survival

November 5, 6 7th 2006.

http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/beyond-belief-science-religion-reason-and-survival


22 posted on 07/21/2017 8:43:43 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: TigerClaws
"We regret to inform you that KPFA has canceled our event with Richard Dawkins. We had booked this event based entirely on his excellent new book on science, when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt — in his tweets and other comments on Islam, so many people".

pffft... You nailed it with your comments on Post 1. KPFA (Left Wing radio on the Pacific Coast) was fine with Richard Dawkins as long as his "science" ("science" so-called. Flawed assumptions, and cherry picked data to push his religion) was used to disparage God, and Christianity.

But, oh no, he also had the temerity to note that Islam is a retrograde culture that is harmful to civilization. Thus he must be silenced.
The Left never supports free speech. Just speech that supports their dogma. And dogma number one is to oppose Christ and Christianity.

23 posted on 07/21/2017 9:31:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: IronJack

It’s about fear of what those wonderful Muslims will do to them if they let anyone say Muslims are not wonderful.


24 posted on 07/21/2017 9:38:04 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: TigerClaws

Nice to see the left tie itself up in knots of contradictions. I’m hoping that they succeed in strangling each other.


25 posted on 07/21/2017 10:26:02 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: TigerClaws

Same logic - they are perfectly fine with Muslim owned businesses not being forced to participate in same-sex marriage ceremonies and will allow them to operate freely uninhibited, whereas they will specifically target Christian owned businesses to harass them out of business.


26 posted on 07/21/2017 10:33:31 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Zeneta

Interesting but kinda dull except for highlights. What is it about academics that they love to hear themselves speak and think others do too. My experience with these speeches is they are worth listening to because of all the good info but they take 10 times longer than they really should most the time.

Good site though; I’ve bookmarked it. I just wish I could listen to it at double or triple speed.


27 posted on 07/21/2017 10:37:56 PM PDT by Boomer (Imagine a world without leftists. Now imagine a perfect world. Oops; repeating myself again...)
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To: TigerClaws
For real?: While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech.
28 posted on 07/21/2017 10:44:08 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: TChad

When Malcolm X was gunned down in 1965, I was all of 16 years old and thought “those who live by the sword....”

His killers were not the KKK, by the way.


29 posted on 07/22/2017 12:20:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970
His killers were not the KKK, by the way.

Nope, it was Calypso Louie, himself.

30 posted on 07/22/2017 12:28:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TigerClaws

Obviously the leftist establishment has gone full time in its drive to protect m*slims and to allow them to spread their violent ideology of death and destruction.


31 posted on 07/22/2017 5:00:13 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Zeneta

Thanks for the link. I tried to listen to Session 7, but fell asleep during.


32 posted on 07/22/2017 5:04:25 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: TigerClaws
...KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech...

That's funny (and sad). Liberals telling themselves and others that they do believe in free speech, but in reality they do not. "serious" speech is what they agree with; "abusive" speech is what they do not like to hear. Too bad they don't get it.

33 posted on 07/22/2017 6:02:10 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: TigerClaws

There was soooo much hypocrisy in that cancellation. Had Dawkins never tweeted a word about Islam, his many “hurtful” comments about Christians and Christianity would NOT have gotten his event cancelled. The cancellation was not about “hurtful” comments by Dawkins. It was 100% about political correctness.


34 posted on 07/22/2017 7:05:57 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: TigerClaws

“While KPFA emphatically supports serious free speech, we do not support abusive speech.”


In other words they DO NOT support free speech.

Even a first grader could figure that one out.

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35 posted on 07/22/2017 7:13:55 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

You don’t know the Orwellian leftist b.s. line?

Hate speech is “non speech.”

Or, worse, hate speech is a a physical assault. Or they “create an atmosphere for violence.”

So it’s not just words, it’s violence. That’s what they try to say. Therefore, it justifies violence against the speakers to stop greater violence.


36 posted on 07/22/2017 7:37:56 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TChad
Good old Pacifica. (...) Hate radio on steroids.

Indeed. I have a relative who listens to nothing but KPFA all day, every day. And if I visit that relative, we are inundated with KPFA. The relative, of course, wants to "enlighten" us because KPFA supposedly has some inside access to the "truth about what is happening" that every other source hides.

There are some advantages to living on the opposite coast from one's relatives.

37 posted on 07/22/2017 7:49:04 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: TigerClaws

Say bad things about muslims, you get chastised.
Muslims shoot, rape, and cut heads off, silence.
Or you get warned about islamaphobia.


38 posted on 07/22/2017 9:56:45 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Boomer; PGalt

Progressives have spent the last hundred years building their positions.

The “Cliff Notes” version?

They are wrong, we are right.

But they have reached critical mass with the assistance of virtually every public institution we know. The speakers at that conference took turns bashing religion in favor of the promotion of the uncertainty of their science. And this uncertainty is now, not only accepted, it is celebrated.

Beyond Belief indeed.

FWIW, the left has co-opted science, so-called real science or hard science, and are using these revelations to proclaim that EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE, including Truth itself.

As a result, they reject any logical foundation for belief. Logic itself is a construct of self contained propositions which are no more or less valid than any other set of propositions.

You and I can agree that these people are nuts, but we can’t destroy their sand castles without raising the tide.


39 posted on 07/23/2017 12:11:38 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta; LS

“You and I can agree that these people are nuts, but we can’t destroy their sand castles without raising the tide.”

“And so castles made of sand, fall into the sea...

eventually”

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y5jk9

Keep on keepin’ on, Zeneta.

Tagline ping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4YlW2ix3zo


40 posted on 07/23/2017 5:05:21 PM PDT by PGalt
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