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1 posted on 07/21/2017 5:24:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
What's holding this up is the insane idea of ‘comprehensive’... Congress should pass the parts they agree on and work on the other parts piecemeal.

It's the same reason work on immigration reform never worked... Congress decks this stuff out like a Christmas tree with so there so much stuff the corruption isn't noticeable..

2 posted on 07/21/2017 5:33:12 AM PDT by GOPJ ( MSM Snowflakes: if you don't like President Trump's tweets don't read 'em.)
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To: Kaslin
Like never before, Trump must use the full extent of his political capital to sell the public on this bill and pressure recalcitrant legislators. He should hold major rallies in the states whose senators are balking, and give substantive speeches on what is at stake and why this bill is the lynchpin to reversing Obama's agenda. For their part, congressional Republicans need to be all over television and flood print media with op-eds pushing this bill.

The problem is that when Trump and the Republicans get out there and try and sell this bill they over-promise to an extent not seen since Obama's selling of Obamacare. Trump gave an interview with CNS where be began by condemning single-payer but then ran down an impossible list of promises that the GOP bill will fulfill. Will substantially lower premiums while at the same time protecting pre-existing conditions. Provide better coverage for low-income Americans and make sure that everybody is protected. Stabilize markets. Restore choices. Over and over and over again on things that they flat can't do or which they are hoping will happen. Lower costs. Lower deductibles. They are promising the moon with no clue on how to deliver. The way they are selling it is a big mistake and not a big misstep.

3 posted on 07/21/2017 5:40:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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The problem with a partial repeal and replace bill is that the follow-on will never get done. They need to do it now and it needs to be a total 100% repeal to kill it. I hate the use of the term ‘replace’ because that is the last thing we need. Any legislation addressing health care needs to be very limited and exclusively geared to opening up full and free competition across the health sector.


4 posted on 07/21/2017 5:48:49 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Kaslin
Like never before, Trump must use the full extent of his political capital to sell the public on this bill and pressure recalcitrant legislators. He should hold major rallies in the states whose senators are balking, and give substantive speeches on what is at stake and why this bill is the lynchpin to reversing Obama's agenda. For their part, congressional Republicans need to be all over television and flood print media with op-eds pushing this bill.

I couldn't agree with this more. The President needs to do a full court press. The senate is populated with cowards and weasels. Right now they're more afraid of the media then they are of us. The President can change that.

5 posted on 07/21/2017 5:53:37 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin
"OK, GOP: No More Excuses!"

Until medical science perfects testicular transplants, the Republicans in Congress will always have an excuse for why they are not acting like men instead of gutless cowards.

7 posted on 07/21/2017 6:08:14 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Kaslin

Face it.

The GOP will do nothing.

We had better get cracking on a new party.

Or suffer CW-II.


8 posted on 07/21/2017 6:09:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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A major overhaul of Obamacare, whether a full repeal, or a repeal and replacement, is imperative for Trump and congressional Republicans

Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.

Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.

Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.

It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.

In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.

Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.

And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.

Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.

And now, it is.

Like Nixon to China, Trump will propose single payer within the year. It’s really the only way out at this point.

And before you accuse me of favoring it, realize that it will destroy a lifetime of work for me. I don’t like it - I hate it.

But it’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.

12 posted on 07/21/2017 6:26:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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I never see any mention of the fact that the IRS has all of our medical records. Surely that is a consideration to repeal it! Do they not still have them?


15 posted on 07/21/2017 6:38:15 AM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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The problem is they have been claiming they will save us from the Edsel lemon by forcing us to buy a Corvair lemon.

Anyone who would want to trade one lemon for another just because of party loyalty has rocks in their head. Just repeal and not replace with anything... open the market so we can go pick and choose what we would like to drive... It would fix it’s self in two years.


17 posted on 07/21/2017 7:01:32 AM PDT by Openurmind
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Music to the GOP ears. They want to be voted into minority party status.


23 posted on 07/21/2017 7:12:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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There’s a new health care model out there and it’s being successful in six hundred locations. Basically, a clinic (group of various docs with various specialties in a building), or maybe it’s more like a small hospital, offers thousands of patients with health issues in the “normal” range health care at $50.00 per month.

And, it’s working. So, the day may come after this model is refined and perfected over the years, that 535 legislators opinions on Health Care are MOOT


27 posted on 07/21/2017 7:45:21 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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Even if Obamacare's ultimate failure were inevitable, Republicans can't sit on their hands and watch it die in slow motion. Far too many people will be hurt, which is unacceptable.

There are going to be winners and losers with any plan. With Obamacare the winners were those with pre-existing conditions and lower income people who became eligible for Medicaid. The losers were those who bought health-care insurance on their own and saw their premiums sky-rocket, people who saw their hours cut be companies not wanting to meet the minimum hour requirement for providing insurance. Under Trumpcare the winners will be those who can buy lower cost premiums that meet their needs and people whose employers no longer need to provide insurance and therefore don't need to cut hours. The losers will be those with pre-existing conditions and those who will be dropped from Medicaid when that gets cut. People are going to get hurt one way or the other, so if Limbaugh's goal is to not hurt anyone then he's going to be disappointed no matter what happens.

28 posted on 07/21/2017 7:54:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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David, I love you, brother, but don’t do an editorial unless you want to confront the real reason they are not doing anything for WE THE PEOPLE...it is because they are paid off by pharma, and COC and anyone keeping them in power...in fact, they get richer if they are in the MINORITY!!!


30 posted on 07/21/2017 8:14:59 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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Obama sold the non-productive side of America the idea that they could have EVERY conceivable kind of health care—despite their life styles——at the largess of the productive part of America. He sold this bag of manure with a ‘LOSS LEADER’ ad on what premiums would cost and a handful of other lies:

Your costs will go down $2500 a year
Your kids are covered by you until they are 26-free
You can keep your own doctor
You can keep your own hospital
Premiums won’t rise
Deductibles won’t rise
Everything will be hunky-dory

NOT SO-—Some families are expected to pay more for this ‘health care insurance’ & DEDUCTIBLES than they earn in gross pay in a year.

NOW that Obamacare is spiraling out of control at a Titanic rate, Obama is out of office & the Congress is there to catch hell for the outcome.

The outcome belongs ENTIRELY to the DEMOCRATS. THEY voted for Obamacare. NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN voted for
Obamacare. Then Kathleen Sebelius had control to add whatever the heck she wanted without ANY oversight or sign off by Congress. And she went nuts with additions like a drunken sailor on shore leave with someone else’s credit card.

John Roberts didn’t help by calling it a legal law because it was a TAX. Gee—I usually get to DEDUCT taxes from my income taxes. Don’t see that space on my 1040. Must be a misprint.....

There are many dirty hands here, but David Limbaugh is correct.

GOP—GET OFF YOUR BUTTS and do something that is actually responsible for once.

My chiropractor will no longer accept any Medicare paying patients-—only those who pay cash. WHY?? Because her Accts receivable has gone from a 60 day range to a range over 180 days with slow payments from the Feds & sending back her requests because of ‘coding problems’. Another 180 days...... How can the human body have over 14,000 different codes that apply to fixing us? NUTS-—COMPLETELY NUTS. Neither she or other small business’ in the health care scene can afford to carry the receivables for that long a time-—and she had to add another office woman JUST TO DO THE CODING—a 50% increase in office staff.

When everybody thinks they can get something for free & they try to put that into place, there has to be pushback.

Here is IS: PUSHBACK

Call it what it is.....the free ride is over.


32 posted on 07/21/2017 12:19:48 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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