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To: LS
I read all your comments on this topic and of course others, and in one way I can see your point.

On the other hand, this quote from I have on my profile page is also inescapably true.

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.”
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

And I, and countless others, will feel a lot of anger and extreme dissatisfaction if no "big names" are called out for their hosts of crimes. if big names are too big to be called to justice, that means our Republic is really down the drain. Economy, illegals, moslem influence in gov, political correctness in military, government corruption and much more are of course absolutely vital.

But without the foundation of Blind Justice, the rule of Law and not rule of Man - the crumbling will continue. Good economy is not enough. Justice must be served or there is no bright future; it means wrongdoers know that "If I get big enough I can do whatever the hell I want and no one will ever go after me." And the little guys still get will get prosecuted like the guy that took a couple of photos of a submarine he shouldn't have. What was his crime compared to Cankles?

If Big Names get to go scott free, if government officials if they are big and important and famous and connected enough, can commit treason, use fake names, very likely order hits on enemies, and all the rest - because it's too difficult or time consuming or uses too many resources or there are still too many corrupt sonsabitches in government to bring them to justice - then we are finished as a Republic. In a practical way I can see your point, but the wounds our citizens have endured because of the lack of justice for extremely serious felonies committed by those in government positions - is going to fester and cause rot. This will not go away. Too many people are bitter, angry, hurt, and cynical to just put all the wrongdoing aside and go on with life. The trickle down effect of injustice will and does taint all levels, all over the country.

364 posted on 07/20/2017 12:37:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

The bigger the name, the tighter your case must be.


365 posted on 07/20/2017 1:07:09 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: little jeremiah
And I, and countless others, will feel a lot of anger and extreme dissatisfaction if no "big names" are called out for their hosts of crimes. if big names are too big to be called to justice, that means our Republic is really down the drain. Economy, illegals, moslem influence in gov, political correctness in military, government corruption and much more are of course absolutely vital. But without the foundation of Blind Justice, the rule of Law and not rule of Man - the crumbling will continue. Good economy is not enough. Justice must be served or there is no bright future; it means wrongdoers know that "If I get big enough I can do whatever the hell I want and no one will ever go after me." And the little guys still get will get prosecuted like the guy that took a couple of photos of a submarine he shouldn't have. What was his crime compared to Cankles? If Big Names get to go scott free, if government officials if they are big and important and famous and connected enough, can commit treason, use fake names, very likely order hits on enemies, and all the rest - because it's too difficult or time consuming or uses too many resources or there are still too many corrupt sonsabitches in government to bring them to justice - then we are finished as a Republic. In a practical way I can see your point, but the wounds our citizens have endured because of the lack of justice for extremely serious felonies committed by those in government positions - is going to fester and cause rot. This will not go away. Too many people are bitter, angry, hurt, and cynical to just put all the wrongdoing aside and go on with life. The trickle down effect of injustice will and does taint all levels, all over the country.

I referenced your entire post, because it speaks the truth. Sessions will never seek justice. He is a do nothing, while the President is hung out to dry.

382 posted on 07/21/2017 12:56:50 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: little jeremiah; kabar
If Big Names get to go scott free, if government officials if they are big and important and famous and connected enough, can commit treason, use fake names, very likely order hits on enemies, and all the rest - because it's too difficult or time consuming or uses too many resources or there are still too many corrupt sonsabitches in government to bring them to justice - then we are finished as a Republic. In a practical way I can see your point, but the wounds our citizens have endured because of the lack of justice for extremely serious felonies committed by those in government positions - is going to fester and cause rot. This will not go away. Too many people are bitter, angry, hurt, and cynical to just put all the wrongdoing aside and go on with life. The trickle down effect of injustice will and does taint all levels, all over the country.

Kabar, you know Sessions. Send him that paragraph in an email.

383 posted on 07/21/2017 1:02:52 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: little jeremiah

When it comes to indicting political foes, there is a 4th consideration beyond 1) are they guilty? (they are), 2) can a solid case be made? (it can with enough resources) 3) are they “too big to jail”? (no one should be above the law); namely:

4) is the case too politicized to assure the public that justice as been served free of political retribution? I think it is a frustrating reality that these cases are in fact too politicized.

The mere fact that it is almost exclusively Republicans and no Democrats who advocate putting Clinton, Podesta, etc. in jail - that should be answer enough.

Putting aside all doubts as to the seriousness of the crimes they committed, and the mountains of evidence of their guilt, it is almost certain their indictments or incarcerations would be seen as political retribution.

The ability to criminalize political rivalries, even when the crimes are real, could add an unhealthy coercive element to politics.

I wouldn’t want the democrats getting back control of the Executive Branch and Justice Department in say 2024 to be able to start indicting the Trumps. It’s a stupid precedent to set.


397 posted on 07/21/2017 2:45:36 PM PDT by enumerated
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