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1 posted on 07/17/2017 10:17:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think this is the one issue Trump should leave alone.

Focus on bringing back American manufacturing, and building the wall, Trump.

Don’t get hijacked with these issues. Focus.


2 posted on 07/17/2017 10:20:57 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Uh, I have a news flash for perez. Despite valiant efforts, the death rate, not just in the USA, but worldwide, remains at 100%.


3 posted on 07/17/2017 10:21:17 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe not “life or death”, but certainly “unconstitutional”, as if that matters anymore.

The GOP working to amend Obamacare is just another massive disappointment that Republicans have doled out to Americans since winning the majority in congress in 2010. Why do we continue to re-elect liars during the primaries? We need to clean house in the GOP while Americans are still disgusted with the Democrat party.


4 posted on 07/17/2017 10:27:13 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Democrats need to stop playing obstructionist politics and participate in the solutions needed to repair the damage they created with Obamacare.

Where is the incentive for them to participate in anything? The Republicans now own healthcare. Obamacare, Trumpcare, Don'tcare, doesn't matter. It's their hot potato regardless. Democrats would be insane to play a part in it.

5 posted on 07/17/2017 10:31:51 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin
we should consider expanding Medicaid to cover them as a fail-safe option.

I totally disagree with that. The government should not be in the position of selecting what kind of coverage is allowed.

Better to have a food stamp type program, because at least in food stamps the buyer can buy whatever thay want at the grocery store even if it's s dumb purchase. They get a set amount of money, and they go into the free market and buy.

They go into the free market and buy and the result is the lowest food prices in the world.

Rather than Medicaid, it's better to give a Health Snap with an amount of money on it for a health policy only. Have it based on income level, so that the lower end gets 100% of the set price and the upper end of assistees get a lesser percentage.

Then they go onto the open market at buy a health plan of their choice. If they get a cheap catastrophic plan, then the remaining Health Snap money can pay for routine doctor visits.

Every food stamp family in the USA could get 10,000,000 and the program will cost about 300 billion a year, far less than every other plan being discussed.

Able bodied people will be required to work.

8 posted on 07/17/2017 10:53:33 AM PDT by xzins (s)
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“Two-hundred thousand people are going to die” If we pass the Republicans’ Senate healthcare bill. Those words came from Democratic National Committee chairman Tom Perez last week.
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200,000 people are going to die whether or not we pass an insurance bill.

If I were Trump I would make a show of inviting Schumer and McConnell to the Whitehouse and I would verbally bitchslap them in front of the Media.

Its time for Trump to be independent.


9 posted on 07/17/2017 10:58:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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According the polls blasted all over the Media, the American people prefer Obamacare to Trumpcare by a 2 to 1 margin.

They also want more Medicaid and are willing to pay more in taxes for it.

Single-Payer is on the way, folks.


10 posted on 07/17/2017 11:02:57 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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Oh the irony...@SenJohnMcCain has a medical emergency & goes to the Mayo clinic, NOT the VA & now the vote on healtcare Bill is deferred. 🤔

11 posted on 07/17/2017 11:07:08 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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Death is a certainty.

You can be a billionaire baseball team owner and die of a heart attack.

Some people are priced out by Obamacare pricing. They can have a heart attack and die too, and do, probably at least 5,000 a year.

I don’t provide care. If you die from lack of care, it isn’t my fault.

My income is low. I can’t afford to pay for the pre-existing conditions of others. I can’t afford to pay for the defective lifestyles of others.

People who have gotten $20,000 worth of care each year should be more willing to pay high premiums than a normally healthy person who spent $3 for a bottle of aspirin back in 2014.


13 posted on 07/17/2017 11:32:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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"“Two-hundred thousand people are going to die” If we pass the Republicans' Senate healthcare bill. Those words came from Democratic National Committee chairman Tom Perez last week. "

The end results of a fatal degenerative disease called "obamacare" whose victims could not survive further delays repealing it.
15 posted on 07/17/2017 11:39:08 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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There was no federal individual mandate in 2013, 2012 or 2011.

I’m sure if you asked Obama in 2013 if he thought the PPACA was a success, he would have said yes.

I’m sure if you asked Hillary Clinton in 2012 if she thought the PPACA was a success, she would have said yes.

I’m sure if you asked Nancy Pelosi in 2011 if she thought the PPACA was a success, she would have said yes.

Did PPACA policy premiums come crashing down for 2014 when the individual mandate came into effect? No

What the base most wants is the repeal of the individual mandate, which obviously isn’t either necessary or proper.

What the base would like is the option of cheaper coverage. Yes, it might have limits, like $25,000 (~one hospitalization) in total coverage and no drug coverage, but I personally haven’t seen one cent of PPACA subsidy money yet.

I’ve been uninsured since 1994.

Don’t tell a man who can’t afford to buy a Cadillac that he can’t buy a Chevy.


16 posted on 07/17/2017 11:47:36 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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If need be, deal with Medicaid reform next year, keeping in mind states need freedom to make the health care system work better and cheaper.

The federal individual mandate needs to go this year.


22 posted on 07/17/2017 12:16:23 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin

If need be, deal with Medicaid reform next year, keeping in mind states need freedom to make the health care system work better and cheaper.

The federal individual mandate needs to go this year.


23 posted on 07/17/2017 12:16:28 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; RoosterRedux; DoughtyOne; ...

I wished I had written the following article, but didn’t, but I borrowed it...it’s a good read:

I agree 100% with Rand Paul about allowing Americans to negotiate with real numbers behind them versus individually. Farmers of America (over 1 million) can negotiate a price for the entire group that will blow away any individual trying on himself or herself to get the insurance.

The issue with what Paul is asking for is that it cannot occur under reconciliation. It would require 60 votes in the Senate. I truly believe that Phase 3 will occur! Our president and Dr. Tom Price will see to it. As a matter of fact, the House has already passed 4 Phase 3 bills. 3 of which are embedded in the current bill. I wrote the following below as a followup to another Treeper’s question.

The Republican House has already passed four bills to cut the cost of medical care. One is pretty huge. Tort Reform legislation.

http://www.thebenefitbureau.com/house-passes-bill-allow-tax-credits-used-pay-cobra-plans/

From the article linked above:

Phase 3 is actually four pieces of legislation:

While the Senate was working on its own legislation to eliminate the Affordable Care Act, the House moved ahead with a second piece of legislation to further chip away at the landmark health care law.

The aforementioned Broad Choices for Americans Act (see below)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2579

(Sec. 2) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to allow the premium assistance tax credit to be used for unsubsidized COBRA continuation health coverage.

(Under the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 [COBRA], an individual may continue to receive coverage under an employer-sponsored health plan after an event that would otherwise end coverage, such as a termination of employment. This bill applies to COBRA continuation coverage if the premiums are solely the obligation of the taxpayer.)

The Verify First Act (see below), which would bar illegal immigrants from receiving tax credits under the ACA or the AHCA.

https://congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2581

(Sec. 2) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to prohibit advance payments of the premium assistance tax credit from being made to an individual unless the Department of the Treasury has received confirmation from the Department of Health and Human Services that the Social Security Administration or the Department of Homeland Security has verified the individual’s status as a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully present in the United States.

The Veterans Equal Treatment Ensures Relief and Access Now (VETERAN) Act (see below) which would allow veterans the choice to stay in the Veterans Affairs programs or instead get financial support for a private health care plan.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2372

(Sec. 2) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to specify that, for the purpose of determining eligibility for the premium assistance tax credit, an individual may not be treated as eligible for coverage under certain Department of Veterans Affairs health insurance programs unless the individual is enrolled in the program.

The bill applies to the premium assistance credit under current law for tax years ending after 2013 and, if the American Health Care Act of 2017 is enacted, the modified premium assistance credit that would take effect under that bill after 2019.

The Protecting Access to Care Act (see below), which would cap malpractice payouts at $250,000 for damages that don’t have a direct economic impact, like lost wages or medical expenses.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1215

From the article linked above:

The statute of limitations is three years after the injury or one year after the claimant discovers the injury, whichever occurs first. For a minor, the statute of limitations is three years after the injury, except for a minor under six years old, for whom it is three years after the injury, one year after discovery of the injury, or the minor’s eighth birthday, whichever occurs later. These limitations are tolled under certain circumstances.

Noneconomic damages are limited to $250,000. Juries may not be informed of this limitation. Parties are liable for the amount of damages directly proportional to their responsibility. These provisions do not preempt state laws that specify a particular monetary amount of damages.


25 posted on 07/17/2017 1:04:52 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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