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1 posted on 07/14/2017 7:55:45 AM PDT by Ennis85
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Ask little Charlie Gard and his parents about that.....


2 posted on 07/14/2017 7:57:11 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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Best at turning away patients needing treatment? Best at leaving patients unattended on gurneys in the hall ways because of lack of bed space? Best at not treating elderly patients?


3 posted on 07/14/2017 7:58:47 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Best for whom?

Best for the administrators and bureaucrats?


5 posted on 07/14/2017 7:59:18 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpers before Trumpin' was cool !)
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Yeah, I want to go to the DMV and get my healthcare from their drones. [eyeroll]


6 posted on 07/14/2017 8:00:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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We don’t have a healthcare “system”, and things are just fine that way. Hidden beneath the headline is that fact that the top system, the NHS, came in tenth for patient outcomes. I’ll take the better quality of care over providing shoddy care equally to everyone.


7 posted on 07/14/2017 8:01:54 AM PDT by mak5
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“The ACA has helped make major strides in coverage and access to care in the US, particularly for lower-income Americans...”

Because Medicaid is such a wonderful health insurance program which guarantees full access, the best doctors, and the most advanced therapies. /src


9 posted on 07/14/2017 8:03:18 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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So our poor health care is why the rich elites in the UK/Canada/EuroTrash Countries/South America/??, fly to the USA for some really poor health care and are willing to pay whatever for their poor treatment.


10 posted on 07/14/2017 8:05:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump is not a Republican suffering from post traumatic press syndrome...!!!)
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Remember folks, we’re now living under obamacare.


11 posted on 07/14/2017 8:06:51 AM PDT by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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‘Scandal of dirty hospitals: 43,000 patients struck down by deadly superbugs on NHS wards last year

In the past three years the NHS has been forced to pay out an astonishing £20million to people who contracted the infections while on a ward’

[This is the tip of the iceberg. As many patients in the NHS—42,000—die annually of thirst. I.e.: water is withheld until their kidneys fail. Then there are those who actually die of bedsores. It goes on and on.]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-superbugs-43000-patients-struck-1412556


12 posted on 07/14/2017 8:07:11 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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Nice transition from "US sucks at access to healthcare" to "Obamacare improved access to healthcare COVERAGE"

They do then say "major strides in coverage and access to care" but the need to mention coverage when the study is on care reveals something about the author.
13 posted on 07/14/2017 8:07:40 AM PDT by LostPassword
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You sure this isn't from The New Alchemist?
14 posted on 07/14/2017 8:12:03 AM PDT by jimfree (My17 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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Sadly, I agree.

We’re great at technology and creating drugs to treat symptoms - instead of promoting health

Our current crony-capitalism-FDA-revolving-door-AMA system renders everything overly expensive and prevents competition.

Doesn’t mean the others are perfect...


16 posted on 07/14/2017 8:16:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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Obamacare is an utter disaster. Worst healthcare system in the world.


19 posted on 07/14/2017 8:45:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Well well. In the UK if you are denied access, it does not count in the healthcare death rate.

Satan the deceiver.

20 posted on 07/14/2017 8:47:51 AM PDT by crz
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European Hospital - Note lack of curtains, been there done that ...
22 posted on 07/14/2017 8:55:42 AM PDT by 11th_VA (#notmyappealscourt)
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Hey US, where are your “waiting to die” lists?

Get with the govt paid healthcare(?) program.


23 posted on 07/14/2017 9:05:56 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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Thank you for referencing that article Ennis85. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"US ranked worst healthcare system, while the NHS is the best(Hurl Alert)"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.

More specifically, as evidenced by the 10th Amendment, the Constitution’s silence about healthcare means that the Founding States had reserved “government” power to regulate, tax and spend for healthcare uniquely to the individual states, not the federal government, each state free to explore its own solutions for healthcare.

This is evidenced by the following excerpts, most of them clarifications of the fed’s constitutionally limited powers by previous generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices.

So unconstitutional (imo) Obamacare is based on state powers and uniquely associated state revenues that the feds have stolen from the states, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional taxes according to the Gibbons excerpt above.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Pres. Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.

25 posted on 07/14/2017 9:15:15 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Here's the short version of this story if you want to save time.

Socialists lie.

26 posted on 07/14/2017 9:20:03 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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Yeah, millions of people flee from the USA to England for healthcare.


27 posted on 07/14/2017 9:25:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Washington Examiner Article

Excerpts from article.

A new report from LIBERAL think tank the Commonwealth Fun

The first giveaway that something is amiss should be the fact that the United Kingdom ranks as the top health care system of those studied. As I reported in a feature last fall, the U.K.'s National Health Service is facing severe problems and has been plagued in recent years by cascading scandals involving horrific neglect of patients.

The problem with the Commonwealth Fund study is that it’s rigged to produce a result that favors socialized health care systems. The study determines that the U.S. system is worse because it lacks universal health insurance coverage and the report emphasizes “equity” as one of the key factors in evaluating a health care system.

The study also doesn't mention cancer outcomes. As it turns out, the U.S. ranks well ahead of the U.K. in five-year survival rates for 22 out of 23 types of cancers, according to data from the American Cancer Society.

The study also relies on surveys of patient satisfaction, which are subjective, because they vary based on people's expectations. If people have low expectations, then a system with objectively bad health outcomes could still be viewed as satisfactory.

28 posted on 07/14/2017 9:28:55 AM PDT by JesusIsLord (uite some time.)
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