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Ann is right!
1 posted on 07/12/2017 5:52:47 PM PDT by Rockitz
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GOP: No, you don't understand. Obamacare is totally imploding, so if we pass this bill now, all its problems will be blamed on us!

Ann is absolutely correct.

2 posted on 07/12/2017 5:55:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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“PEOPLE CAN’T BUY HEALTH INSURANCE THEY WANT, CAN’T SEE THE DOCTORS THEY WANT AND CAN’T AFFORD THEIR PREMIUMS AND DEDUCTIBLES.”

Preach it!


4 posted on 07/12/2017 6:04:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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Well they’re a bunch of frickin’ idiots, so it shouldn’t be surprising.


5 posted on 07/12/2017 6:06:47 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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From Rand Paul:

“I miss the old days, when Republicans stood for repealing Obamacare. Republicans across the country and every member of my caucus campaigned on repeal – often declaring they would tear out Obamacare “root and branch!” What happened?

“Now too many Republicans are falling all over themselves to stuff hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ dollars into a bill that doesn’t repeal Obamacare and feeds Big Insurance a huge bailout.

“Obamacare regulations? Still here. Taxes? Many still in place, totaling hundreds of billions of dollars.

“Insurance company bailouts? Those, too. Remember when Republicans complained about Obamacare’s risk corridors? Remember when we called the corridors nothing more than insurance company bailouts? I remember when one prominent GOP candidate during a presidential debate explicitly called out the Obamacare risk corridors as a bailout to insurance companies. Does anyone else?

“Now, the Senate GOP plan being put forward is chock full of insurance bailout money – to the tune of nearly $200 billion. Republicans, present company excluded, now support the idea of lowering your insurance premium by giving a subsidy to the insurance company.

“Remarkable. If the GOP now supports an insurance stabilization fund to lower insurance prices, maybe they now support a New Car stabilization fund to lower the price of cars. Or maybe the GOP would support an iPhone stabilization fund to lower the price of phones.

“The possibilities are limitless once you accept that the federal government should subsidize prices. I remember when Republicans favored the free choice of the marketplace.”

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6 posted on 07/12/2017 6:08:28 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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Every single problem in healthcare before Obamacare was a direct result of government being involved. Obamacare “fixed” that by getting them even more involved.
Now the republican idiots are going to “fix” Obamacare by owning it politically, and enshrining in law that Health Insurance is a right.

Asshattery. Only Rand Paul and Cruz get it.

I am so disgusted with the republican party.


7 posted on 07/12/2017 6:08:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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Ann is missing the bigger picture.

Levin was talking about this tonight. The GOP Governors want this crap so they can brag to their state constituents how they are balancing the budgets while still funding Medicaid.

Kasich, Snyder, FL's Governor, even Walker here in WI. They're addicted to federal Medicaid funding from the Feds like crack.

We are going to have single-payer healthcare folks. And that means rationing and providers leaving the system in droves. That means higher taxes. That means your grandparents, or those with terminal illnesses are going to face the infamous death panels, deemed by those who determine who can live or not.

I would rather have Obamacare in its present form than what the Republicans are doing now. In fact, why are the Republicans even lifting a finger anyway? NO REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR OBAMACARE. Either repeal Obamacare, or just let it implode.

9 posted on 07/12/2017 6:11:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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This is just great. Now the Republicans feel compelled to bring forth their own health plan. And when the Democrats regain control of the legislature or the presidency another insurance scheme will be rolled out. And so on...

Just get out of the health insurance business altogether. The vanity of politicians who think they have to fix everything is frightening.

12 posted on 07/12/2017 6:14:53 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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Whatever happens the public will rightly consider the Pubs to be responsible. That’s what happens when your party gets all the power. The public won’t care who passed Obamacare. The Pubs have the power to kill it or change it, and the public knows it. Whatever happens is on them, period. If they leave Obamacare in place and it fails it’s on them. Want all the power? You own what happens. If anyone thinks the public is going to blame the Dems when Obamacare fails they don’t know human nature.


13 posted on 07/12/2017 6:15:32 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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Trump the businessman was never all that big of a fan of the free market, and Trump the president hasn’t preached for anything remotely resembling a free market healthcare plan.

I know, he’s playing 9-D chess.


16 posted on 07/12/2017 6:18:50 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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The Republican party is rotten to the core. That’s why Trump got elected. That’s why they stick it to him at every opportunity.

They’re going to lose.

Trump needs to identify senators and representatives that need to go, identify persons to take their place, start prepping them, and then talk directly to us, “give me a Congress that will work with me”, present those persons AND WE WILL ELECT THEM.


17 posted on 07/12/2017 6:21:51 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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The right answer is:

1. Repeal Obamacare - clean repeal in a party-line vote.
2. Vote item by item on what could be in the replacement, starting with selling medical insurance across state lines and companies being permitted to keep kids on parental policies to age 26. Anything with majority support from republicans can be voted on, and anything with majority support overall goes into the bill. This should not be a horse-trading grand compromise where bad things are put in to buy the votes of those who benefit, just a minimalist intervention into medical care.

Repeal and replace, but in separate steps.


26 posted on 07/12/2017 6:47:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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I disagree with her. The Republicans will be blamed regardless. They have the house, senate, presidency and USSC. They will be blamed when it blows up. If ACA blows up in 2019, the average voter will barely be able to remember Obama’s name much less the “affordable care act.” The active base will remember on both sides but thats it. Further, getting it repealed will make real tax reform much, much easier, which will get a GOP expansion in 2018 which will allow for a full repeal much much easier in 2019.


34 posted on 07/12/2017 7:17:24 PM PDT by rb22982
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What the hell do they care. The money is in the bank.


36 posted on 07/12/2017 7:31:19 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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One thing that really shows here is the gullibility of the voting public.

For years, conservative voters have been electing lying politicians (especially faux conservatives...Republicans) only to find out that they are in the “don’t rock the boat” and the “can’t we all go along to get along” club.

The most amazing thing is the gullible voters actually believe what they say in their speeches upon upcoming elections! Term limits are the only solution to the problem! We will never see that happen because it would really “drain the swamp!”


43 posted on 07/13/2017 5:31:05 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Yes, and the Bill won't pass.

I think they know that.

44 posted on 07/13/2017 5:43:40 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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When I glanced at the title my first thought was which congressman named “Bill” is she writing about? It’s early out here ...


46 posted on 07/13/2017 5:46:26 AM PDT by glennaro
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I’m convinced the GOP did everything they could to help pass Obamacare while keeping their hands off of it publically.


48 posted on 07/13/2017 6:52:28 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (How many ways do liberals hate the bible?)
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The original version Paid Insurers 50 Billion directly.. the new version 70 Billion dollars directly. It’s an insurance bailout. #notjustno


51 posted on 07/14/2017 4:35:38 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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