“Your analogy to King George is irrelevant. IL is not a nation. The Founders knew that some states would be more liberal than others, so they created a mechanism via the 10th Amendment to give states powers not delegated to the Feds.
So if people are fed up with leftist states, they can leave. That’s the beauty of federalism and it’s not “cutting and running.””
Not so! The end result of people leaving the currently liberal states is to foster the movement of Liberals to states that currently are at least semi-conservative, because in reality, not a one of them is really conservative and Liberals tend to “move on” once they’ve terminally crapped up their current places of abode. The net result of people running rather than standing and fighting is that in the end, most, if not all states will become Liberal.
I just love the turkeys here from Texas who puff out their chests about how “conservative” Texas is (which in and of itself is complete BS). They are almost to the tipping point where California was twenty years ago and they are too stupid to see that Texas is on the cusp of becoming Mexias, with a “generous helping” of Black Freeloaders in their major cities. And when they look up one day and have a Illegal Alien Mexican for their governor, and a Mexican majority legislature, they will be saying WTF happened!
We should not be “ceding territory to Liberals anywhere.
Welfare is not treated as income, so it is unaffected by an income tax. However, sales taxes directly make welfare pay dollar-for-dollar the same as earned income. Texas has a sales tax, but no income tax.
Is so! That's the way our system of government was set up. The Founders had the foresight to know that some states would be more statist than other states. Hence the reason why federalism was adopted. Look, WI in the 80s was the welfare magnet of the nation. IL residents double-dipped in both states. But now look at WI. We have a Republican Governor and a Republican legislature on the verge of passing constitutional-carry. These liberals might leave their hellholes but over time I think they wise up and start becoming conservatives, and they're just a fraction of the people leaving anyway. The people that will leave IL are conservatives and then IL will get their wake-up call and become conservative. Just like the Founders envisioned. Circle of life.
And you expect us to stay there and keep shoveling up this stuff???
Illinois has been corrupt for at least 80 years. If citizens for decades believe in being abused and many simple minded, short sighted people are O.K. to hang out on a sinking ship, why do I, or anyone with a working brain, have to live in this?
You live in California. Progressive hellhole. What are you doing to fight? How do you fight when the majority believes in a 3rd grade La-La land unicorn existence ? You're tax dollars are paying for their crap! Why do you stay?
I'm not trying to be confrontational, only sincere.
What do we do when overwhelmed ?
Personally I like D's suggestion. LOL!