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After Backing Trump, Christians Who Fled Iraq Fall Into His Dragnet
The New York Slimes ^ | July 4, 2017 | Vivian Yee

Posted on 07/04/2017 7:34:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: UnwashedPeasant
Sigh...."their green cards were revoked after criminal convictions on charges including theft, drug possession, rape and murder.” Charges. So Mohamed down the street can make a baseless charge and get a Christian sent back to the U.S.-caused genocide."

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Did you miss the little part that said, "AFTER CRIMINIAL CONVICTIONS"???????

21 posted on 07/04/2017 9:08:41 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
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To: Dogbert41

Did you fall like all the others into lumping it all together?


22 posted on 07/04/2017 9:25:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Flick Lives
“Though most of them came here legally, as refugees or through relatives who were American citizens, their green cards were revoked after criminal convictions on charges including theft, drug possession, rape and murder.”

Ahh... the fine print. Always important and hardly read.

23 posted on 07/04/2017 9:26:03 PM PDT by Boomer ("Based on the impotent shrieking of the Never Trump bedwetters"....)
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To: Boomer

Ahh, so some smoked marijuana, others killed. One basket!!


24 posted on 07/04/2017 9:27:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Dogbert41
"Did you miss the little part that said, "AFTER CRIMINIAL CONVICTIONS"???????"

I did miss that! Some probably deserve it, but the death penalty is pretty severe for drug possession.

25 posted on 07/04/2017 9:32:25 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

That depends onwhat drugs in what quantity.


26 posted on 07/04/2017 10:17:30 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Ahh, so some smoked marijuana, others killed. One basket!!

I didn't see where it said just pot possession; what I read said drugs. I don't know if it was weed, crack, heroin, all the above for personal use or in the amount to sell.

I hear ya though; these days simple personal use pot possession hardly feels like a crime when it's legal in some states and practically legal in others.

The drugs are still illegal at the fed level. We criticized obongo for cherry picking what laws he was going to enforce. It would be hypocritical to do the same thing in this case.

I have no beef with middle eastern Christians; only the muzzies but the laws have to apply equally or they are worthless. It's also why obama, his upper level Admin, and others associated with it should all be looking at 20-life but they get off the hook because they are pols or well connected. It isn't right.

27 posted on 07/04/2017 11:29:28 PM PDT by Boomer ("Based on the impotent shrieking of the Never Trump bedwetters"....)
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To: Steve_Seattle

The NY Times never tells the who story so there is much more to this than meets the eye.

I hope those refugees who have redeemed themselves for their MINOR crimes will be given an exemption from deportation.

It has to be on a case by case basis.


28 posted on 07/05/2017 1:47:02 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What the Ctrl-Left is missing is this is not about racism.

Illegal Mexicans should be deported.
Illegal Muslims should be deported.
Illegals from Central America should be deported.
Illegals from Ireland should be deported.
Illegals who came legally but committed serious crimes and had their permission revoked should be deported.
Illegal Christians should be deported.

It’s not about identity politics, it’s about following the law and about protecting real Americans from criminals.


29 posted on 07/05/2017 2:57:07 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: wyowolf
Reading the whole thing for context might help before one goes all concern-troll.

Perhaps becoming relevant might help:

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30 posted on 07/05/2017 3:38:05 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; UnwashedPeasant; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I think, to glean what we can from the story (since we cannot trust the New York Times to tell it factually) is that these people were convicted of crimes.

I guarantee you 100%, being the New York Times, if they could have squeezed as many “victims” in there being deported as having as their only crime the smoking of pot, they would have enumerated them, probably to the exclusion of all others.

As stupid and dishonest as they are, they know someone convicted of rape or murder is not going to elicit sympathy for the victims, or outrage against President Trump (or, Mr. Trump as the NYT likes to call him) so you can guarantee they are going to get the most sympathetic ones they can find.

They give three examples of people being unfairly treated. One would fully expect that if there were people being deported whose crime they were convicted of was littering (or smoking pot) that would be front and center.

But it isn’t.

There are three examples:

***One was a cocaine dealer who did 22 years and lost his green card at conviction.

***One was convicted of breaking and entering into an automobile after he came here as a teenager.

***One was convicted of brandishing a gun (probably illegally owned) during a road rage incident.

That’s it. I could see feeling some sympathy for paying so high a price for youthful trespass of law breaking into a car, or even brandishing a gun in a moment of passion. The guy dealing coke? Not so much, for a sentence like that of 22 years, he probably had a minimum of 200 grams of cocaine.

Bottom line, these were likely the most abjectly minor offenses of all of those people detained in the last sweep.

Do you agree that if the NYT could have made it look like they were deporting people convicted of smoking pot, they would have explicitly done just that?


31 posted on 07/05/2017 4:29:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“their green cards were revoked after criminal convictions on charges including theft, drug possession, rape and murder.”
Charges.

So Mohamed down the street can make a baseless charge and get a Christian sent back to the U.S.-caused genocide.


You missed the “criminal convictions” part. Not just charges, convictions.


32 posted on 07/05/2017 5:42:29 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

INS leftists shafting Trump??

Just asking.


33 posted on 07/05/2017 6:18:46 AM PDT by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Given the reasons these particular Iraqi Christians got on the deportation lists - convicted here of crimes like robbery, drug dealing, rape - the Iraqi Christian community here is better of without them.

The 100 represent a tiny fraction of the whole Iraqi Christian community and that community by knows the U.S. criminal background of the individuals. Pravda on the Hudson could be - for ITS political reasons - making a mountain out of a mole hill.


34 posted on 07/05/2017 7:19:55 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Parable of the net

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and caught fish of every kind; when it was full, they drew it ashore, sat down, and put the good into baskets but threw out the bad.

There are laws on the books for those who suffer religious persecution in their native lands be afforded refuge, in the United States. Those laws can apply to the Chaldeans who are not among the criminals.

35 posted on 07/05/2017 7:41:47 AM PDT by BlueDragon (whattya' mean you don't believe in Climate Change? the weather always seems to be changing...)
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