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On my Way to Australia, Firearms Amnesty
ammoland ^ | 26 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/04/2017 12:26:27 PM PDT by marktwain

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- In a few days, I will be traveling to Australia. My trip will occur during the “Firearms Amnesty” there. I intend to write about the Amnesty, as well as the Australian gun culture.

Blog posts may be a little spotty.  It can be difficult to get decent Internet connectivity when you are flying over the Pacific. Internet availability in Australia depends on where you are. The more people around, the better Internet connections.  There are lots of places in Australia without many people.

This Australian “Amnesty” differs from American “buybacks”. American “buybacks” are more properly termed gun turn in events. The American events, in general pay to have the guns turned in.

In this Australian amnesty, there is no general monetary incentive to turn in guns to the government. The incentives are the draconian punishments the government has put in place for failing to register an otherwise legal product.

From the Amnesty website:

If you are found in possession of an unregistered firearm, you could face significant penalties. Depending on your state or territory, and the seriousness of the offence, penalties may include a fine of up to $280,000, or jail time of up to 14 years, or both. These penalties may apply even if it is your first firearm-related offence.

If you are found in possession of unregistered firearms, you may also receive a criminal conviction. Criminal convictions can have serious consequences for you and your family, and may impact your ability to keep any registered firearms you have.

In the U.S.A. there are similar penalties for possession of unregistered short barreled rifles or shotguns, silencers, or machine guns. In the U.S. the penalties for an individual are $10,000 and 10 years in jail. 

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; australia; banglist; guns
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I am in Australia now. Had a power outage yesterday, but am back on line. Wonderful hosts here. More posts will be coming.
1 posted on 07/04/2017 12:26:27 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I always wanted to go


2 posted on 07/04/2017 12:28:46 PM PDT by corlorde
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To: corlorde

In the 1980s, it was the least foreign of the foreign countries to which I had been.


3 posted on 07/04/2017 12:36:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: marktwain; naturalman1975

naturalman1975 is a good source for info on gun ownership down under.


4 posted on 07/04/2017 12:38:20 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Didn't know you're the author. Look forward to your articles.

Have fun.

Let them know that discounting dem vote fraud Trump won the popular vote too.

And that we will say NO to the national suicide that the UK and most of the EU is committing.

Keep your head down and your powder dry.

5 posted on 07/04/2017 12:43:50 PM PDT by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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To: marktwain

Its not the guns actually though you can own them its about knives, in many urban places wearing a Leatherman multi tool will get you in trouble, while i was on vacation there several years ago i never kept mine on my belt but hidden in my cargo pants.
Loved Australia but i would never be happy there because of its socialistic views.


6 posted on 07/04/2017 12:53:19 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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If you have an unregistered gun, can you go ahead and register it without penalty?


7 posted on 07/04/2017 12:55:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain

Disarm themselves and surrender to the hordes from Asia. Who will protect them?


8 posted on 07/04/2017 1:02:15 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: marktwain

Watch out for Drop Bears.


9 posted on 07/04/2017 1:11:05 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

What are drop bears?


10 posted on 07/04/2017 1:24:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

https://australianmuseum.net.au/drop-bear

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=drop+bears&&view=detail&mid=44B79C6651F20D9B4D2144B79C6651F20D9B4D21&&FORM=VDRVRV


11 posted on 07/04/2017 1:41:58 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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I used to live out west ... suburb of Perth 😀 Love it down there...
12 posted on 07/04/2017 1:42:19 PM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: marktwain

Cool, looking forward to your reports.


13 posted on 07/04/2017 2:21:38 PM PDT by PROCON (President Reagan, your worthy successor has arrived to save our beloved America)
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To: marktwain
If you are found in possession of an unregistered firearm, you could face significant penalties. Depending on your state or territory, and the seriousness of the offence, penalties may include a fine of up to $280,000, or jail time of up to 14 years, or both. These penalties may apply even if it is your first firearm-related offence.

I dont wanna sound like a Yank and be stupid, mate, But does that law apply to Muslem's as well?

...insert severe eye roll.....

14 posted on 07/04/2017 3:07:05 PM PDT by Delta 21
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If you have an unregistered gun, can you go ahead and register it without penalty?

Yes, but it's a complex process (overly complex) like most of what happens with Australian firearms laws, and also costs more than it needs to (again, common with Australian firearms laws).

You would have to put the weapon into the hands of somebody who is permitted to have unregistered firearms in their possession (generally a gun dealer who would charge you for this). Then you would have to get a 'Permit to Acquire' (which costs you money) for the weapon. Assuming it's a weapon you're licenced to have, it after the PTA is processed, it can be transferred back to you as a registered firearm.

At least that's how it works in my state (Victoria).

15 posted on 07/04/2017 3:31:09 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Grimmy

Thank you.


16 posted on 07/04/2017 3:39:44 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Delta 21
I dont wanna sound like a Yank and be stupid, mate, But does that law apply to Muslem's as well?
...insert severe eye roll.....

You have to wonder, based on the mindsets evidenced here: Australia: The Madness Continues

Snips: "In Australia, according to judges, women and children must accept sexual assaults because it is part of the "Islamic culture" of their attackers. It would seem that in parts of Australia, this "Islamic culture" has replaced the rule of law."
"Similarly, in 2014 , a registered sex-offender and pedophile, Ali Jaffari, was accused of attempted child-abduction. However, Australian police dropped all charges against him, after a magistrate told prosecutors that he would have difficulties finding Jaffari guilty. According to news reports:
Magistrate Ron Saines said if he was hearing the matter, he would have reasonable doubt, citing "cultural differences" as one factor, which would result in the charges being dismissed."

What freaking planet are these people on?

17 posted on 07/04/2017 4:59:53 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: naturalman1975

Sounds like a whole lot of trouble. I think I remember something about having to have your guns secured in your house at all times too. Does someone from the government show up at your house to check on that as well?


18 posted on 07/04/2017 5:26:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
Sounds like a whole lot of trouble. I think I remember something about having to have your guns secured in your house at all times too. Does someone from the government show up at your house to check on that as well?

Yes, firearms must be secured whenever they are not in active use. Big safe, either too heavy to move without equipment or bolted to the floor.

Theoretically, the police do have the right to check on your storage arrangements. It's never happened to me, and I've never heard of it happening to anybody else I know either. I'm sure it does happen on occasion, but it seems to be pretty rare.

19 posted on 07/04/2017 7:12:54 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: smokingfrog

In Britain, the Polizei can knock on your door at any time to inspect your guns and how you have them secured.

Yes, I said Polizei.


20 posted on 07/04/2017 7:18:01 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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