Posted on 07/02/2017 5:06:42 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
We? We? Parts of “our” government certainty are.
And the 4th estate has attempted to poison the well, by claiming collusion and Russian driven election fraud. If Trump tries to form any alliance, they’ll scream it’s a reward for their help in getting him elected.
Which “parts” of the government are not? I don’t like it but I know what my taxes are being used for - aiding the globalists in their march to a NWO.
So the country that tried to create NWO 1 is now our savior against NWO 2? I don't trust Putin and the Russians anymore than I trust the NWO types. All governing bodies are opportunistic and will grab power anytime they have an opportunity. Few governments have ever recognized that the power belongs to the people. Our government was perhaps the best at this but it has been corrupted. I don't think that it is irredeemable, though and can still be fixed through reforms.
“Doesn’t matter, we spend 5 times as much as Russia on our military, therefore our weapons are superior.”
I hate Neocons. All of them.
However, this weapons system presupposes that there will be Russian surface combatants that survive 12 hours past general war.
And there will not be any.
“The first missile was MISSED because it tricked by the upgraded Russian flares.”
Dude. You need to study up.
The Sidewinder has already been vulnerable to diversion by flares. It has been for 40 years. It’s a heat seeking/IR missile. And all of them have the same weakness.
Our “smart” missiles shoot from more than 100 miles and are radar homing.
“Upgraded flares”. That’s a hoot right there, I don’t care who you are.
It’s best you not post on the subject of military hardware anymore. Your knowledge gap will take years to close.
Because, according to your astute analysis, we need across the board upgrades, to: “at least put up a reasonable fight”.
Suck me, then. I was recounting an article that I read. It wasn’t ‘my analysis’ and you’re welcome to provide links disproving it (or not, if you don’t want to), but let’s lay off the personal attacks.
By the way, this is article, you should read up a bit:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/news/a27094/su-22-dodge-aim-9x-sidewinder/
And if your pretense was even true, why the hell are we using missiles in combat that have been OBSOLETE for 40 years? Are we trying to get our men shot down, or captured? We were damn lucky the Russians didn’t test their S-400 after that miss.
We use them because they are cheap and plentiful.
They are designed for close-in dogfights.
If the first shot is “diverted”, take another shot. It’s not unlike guns.
Not cool.
Leaving your sophisticated weaponry out on deck semi-enclosed in a launcher-tube and exposed to the elements? Not wise. But Russian surface ships don’t typically spend much time at sea, so I guess that works OK?
Don’t know what you base that on. Putin runs a pretty tight ship full of cronyism. Even if the Russians were not disposed to join the NWO, the guy/gal that replaces Putin might, and Russia would turn on a dime.
“It also has an anti-torpedo variant that provides several minutes of what is termed ‘interference’ in the article. That isn’t something I’m aware an asroc ever provided.”
Missed that first time through. You’re right; at least in my era that was not a feature.
I wonder, though, how well it works.
I don't know who learned more from that encounter, us or the Russians, but both sides learned a lot.
I agree that when our first-line missiles are defeated by their old, export airplanes we are not in nearly as good a position as once thought.
I wonder how long it will take to upgrade our missiles? Is it a software change or do we need to develop new sensors and guidance?
The article that I referenced suspected that we were not keeping up with their upgraded flares, but instead designed our missiles too narrowly, so as to only defeat our flares.
Hopefully we did learn something and hopefully the Neocons will permit us to spend the money needed to fix that issue, before they start WW3.
I had read both that article and other sources that indicated the same thing. We do not know if that is the truth or useful misinformation. Current Russian flares are hard to come by -- they do not sell them to us for obvious reasons.
Maybe we want the Russians to THINK their flares are very, very good, when the real problem was somewhere else. We don't even know for sure that two missiles were required. It could have been one, or it could have been six.
Those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know.
Put me in the second category, LOL!
Good points.
I take it you are ignorant of the missile seeker upgrades that reject targets that are too hot, i.e. burning magnesium, and only home in on targets that are jet engine hot i.e. burning jet fuel hot (not hot enough to melt steel according to that master structural engineer, Rosie O'Donnel).
You are probably also totally unaware that some current flares burn TNT, yes TNT, it can burn without exploding, but I bet you didn't know that either! TNT burns close to jet fuel temperatures and is therefore much harder to distinguish from a magnesium decoy.
Hmmm. Well. Uh. The Post office? That's sorta part of the government...
I’m not sure what that has to do with anything - all that I know is some piece of Syrian crap DEFEATED OUR NEWEST Sidewinder.
My only point is that I really wish you guys would push as hard for us to MODERNIZE our military as you push for a war against Russia.
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