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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 2 July 2017
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 2 July 2017 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/02/2017 4:56:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Fishtalk
Sasse is/was a “Never Trump” guy and is establishment all the way. With that, I would count on him for any change as much as I would count on John McCain, that being not at all.
141 posted on 07/02/2017 1:12:32 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought; Fishtalk

Also, he is good friends with good ‘ole pedo-boy Dennis Hastert.


142 posted on 07/02/2017 1:49:07 PM PDT by Sal (They're trying to start a civil war. In war the rules change. BAD for all! Especially THEM.)
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To: Rational Thought

Really?

Not saying you’re wrong. Today was the first time I’ve paid any attention to him, frankly.

I listened to every word he said. He has an excellent vocabulary and if he wasn’t reading some kind of teleprompter, well he spoke briskly and accurately like he was.

He didn’t say an unkind word about Trump though he kind of skipped around the subject of tweets.

He impressed me today. Going to watch with close eye because Tapper already asked Sasse if he would run against Trump next election.

People are noticing this guy, a kid almost, and asking him if he plans to run for Prez.

Ain’t nobody ever asked me that.


143 posted on 07/02/2017 1:49:36 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Sal

Really?

Oooh, you guys are loaded with gossip.

Because that Denny Hastert thing really surprised the hell out of me. By me I always thought Denny was a straight shooter. Only to find out he like young boys more than reasonable.

And what is the definition of “good friends” I must wonder.


144 posted on 07/02/2017 1:52:35 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: rodguy911

DO NOT TRUST RAND PAUL!™


145 posted on 07/02/2017 2:11:05 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Road Warrior ‘04
I believe you and I don't.How could you when hes ready to shut down our side with his vote if necessary.Just another doctor who is an ego maniac,I've seen hundreds of them in South Fla.This is after all where they all come to die or practice one.One in three are ego maniacs.
146 posted on 07/02/2017 2:17:10 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the Free because of the brave.MAGA!!)
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To: Fishtalk
Happy 4th of July all Freepers!

Happy Independence Day!

147 posted on 07/02/2017 2:23:18 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: rodguy911
I guess the Trump team (Barron...?) is holding this one in reserve:


148 posted on 07/02/2017 2:28:19 PM PDT by spokeshave (The Fake Media tried to stop us from going to the White House, I am President and they are not. DJT)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Rand Paul wants separate REPEAL.

McConnell does NOT want separate repeal.

Rand Paul is the one to trust.


149 posted on 07/02/2017 3:58:37 PM PDT by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")
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To: Fishtalk

Sasse has been anti Donald since the primaries, as was his right. However, as a Republican Senator, he owed WHOM THE PARTY CHOSE AS THE NOMINEE his loyalty once that nomination was voted on and approved.

Yet Ben has never stopped.

He needs to either SHADDAP or leave the party. This applies to all Anti-Trump Republicans, frankly.

They don’t get choose: WE do.

We, the Republicans voters, elected Trump out of a very broad 16 person candidate range.

Sasse on Trump:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=ben+sasse+against+trump&FORM=R5FD


150 posted on 07/02/2017 4:05:37 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Fishtalk
If she was on fire I wouldn’t pee on her to put it out.

Never heard that phrase before. LOL!

151 posted on 07/02/2017 4:47:52 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Alas Babylon!
The reality is that SS is deeply embedded into our lives. The wealth gap is growing with a major portion of our population becoming more dependent upon government. Consider these facts about SS (from the SSA):

Social Security works for all Americans, and it has never been more important to our economic security. Fifty-four million depend on Social Security – 1 out of every 6 people. About 2 out of 3 seniors depend on Social Security for most of their income, and one-third of seniors rely on it for at least 90% of their income. Social Security’s benefits are modest, but vital. The average benefit is about $13,000 a year—less than full-time, minimum-wage work.

Yet, it is the single most important way the nation protects working Americans and their families against lost wages, when a working person is severely disabled or retires; and when a parent or spouse dies or is severely disabled. Social Security lifts 20 million people out of poverty. Without it, the poverty rate of our seniors would be 45%; instead it is 10%. Social Security does all of this with administrative costs of less than a penny on the dollar.

About one in three of all Social Security beneficiaries are receiving disability or survivor benefits. Social Security is the nation’s largest and most generous program for disabled workers, providing 8.3 million with benefits. It is also the nation’s largest and most generous children’s program serving 4.4 million children.

No one wants to starve Grandma. Some of us do want her to have more say in how her lifetime of forced contributions could be invested. Shame that so many could have done so much better if this was allowed.

Americans are not saving for their futures. The numbers for retirement savings already looked discouraging with the average American couple only having put away $5,000, but the situation may be worse: only a third of working Americans are saving money in an employer-sponsored or tax-deferred retirement account, according to U.S. Census Bureau researchers, as reported in Bloomberg. And that’s only if their employers even offer such plans, which, according to this research, only 14% do (and they’re likely large companies).

About 21% of working Americans aren’t saving any of their income, which remains unchanged from the answer consumers gave the survey in 2016, a survey released this week by personal finance site Bankrate.com concluded. And just 25% are saving more than 10% of their incomes, down from 28% in 2016. The Bankrate survey was conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates from a nationally representative sample of more than 1,000 people. What are the biggest reasons Americans aren’t saving more money? The No. 1 answer: 38% said they had too many expenses, some of which may not be under their control given that wages have remained stagnant in recent years. The next reason is absolutely under their control, however. Some 16.4% of the respondents simply said “they haven’t gotten around to it.” The third and fourth reasons? Just over 16% said they not having a good enough job and 13% said they were struggling under debt.

Of course, living within one’s means is an important part of saving: About two-thirds of American adults don’t write out a budget at all and the same percentage of consumers say they would have trouble coming up with an emergency $2,000, according to the New York Federal Reserve in a new survey released Monday.

I do bet we can agree that the government is not the wisest entity to manage finances.

Agree, but the majority of our population is not capable either. We can discuss the reasons why, but the reality is that we have a permanent underclass that is growing and the ability to move out of it is problematic for most. How do we deal with a beleaguered middle class that has seen wage stagnation since 1969 fueled by mass immigration, outsourcing of our jobs abroad, and automation?

I am reading now Charles Murray's book, Coming Apart. It is an eye-opener, especially for those of us who graduated high school in the early 1960s.

"In Coming Apart, Charles Murray explores the formation of American classes that are different in kind from anything we have ever known, focusing on whites as a way of driving home the fact that the trends he describes do not break along lines of race or ethnicity.

Drawing on five decades of statistics and research, Coming Apart demonstrates that a new upper class and a new lower class have diverged so far in core behaviors and values that they barely recognize their underlying American kinship—divergence that has nothing to do with income inequality and that has grown during good economic times and bad.

The top and bottom of white America increasingly live in different cultures, Murray argues, with the powerful upper class living in enclaves surrounded by their own kind, ignorant about life in mainstream America, and the lower class suffering from erosions of family and community life that strike at the heart of the pursuit of happiness. That divergence puts the success of the American project at risk.

The evidence in Coming Apart is about white America. Its message is about all of America."

152 posted on 07/02/2017 5:03:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DanZ

I agree. We already have means testing for Medicare.


153 posted on 07/02/2017 5:03:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: spokeshave

just too good!!


154 posted on 07/02/2017 5:06:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the Free because of the brave.MAGA!!)
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To: DanZ

None of them.


155 posted on 07/02/2017 7:57:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: kabar
Drawing on five decades of statistics and research, Coming Apart demonstrates that a new upper class and a new lower class have diverged so far in core behaviors and values that they barely recognize their underlying American kinship—divergence that has nothing to do with income inequality and that has grown during good economic times and bad.

The top and bottom of white America increasingly live in different cultures, Murray argues, with the powerful upper class living in enclaves surrounded by their own kind, ignorant about life in mainstream America, and the lower class suffering from erosions of family and community life that strike at the heart of the pursuit of happiness. That divergence puts the success of the American project at risk.

Yes, In America this may be a new Phenomena

We did have some of this in the 1890-1920 era. Oil, Railroads

In the rest of the world outside of Europe this class bifurcation is pretty normal. Venezuela is just a more recent example where the bifurcation is causing revolution

Lenin took advantage of this same dynamic, Land owning royalty vs. the kulaks.

Most oh history is this 90% serfs,9% merchants,Laity, other professionals and 0.5 - 1% rulers.

156 posted on 07/03/2017 10:33:08 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ
In the rest of the world outside of Europe this class bifurcation is pretty normal.

First of all, it is happening now in Europe. The point that Murray is making, normal or not for the Third World, is that this is a mortal threat to our Republic and the vision of our Founders. As Murray points out, this is not a matter of class and income inequality, it is growing chasm in terms of culture and moral values.

157 posted on 07/03/2017 11:47:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Sal

Now he tortures us.


158 posted on 07/03/2017 12:49:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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