To: Drew68
Remember when Obama wanted to designate election systems as “critical infrastructure”, and the howl that arose from the right?
Now the Federal Government wants detail on voting rolls from each state.... and the political right (excluding this guy) is just fine and dandy with it.
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....
To: bigdaddy45
Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....How would you know? This is not a conservative/liberal issue as much as a legal one. Trump is doing this to see who howls the loudest. Anyone aiding and abetting illegal voting is a federal criminal...they can be conservative, "liberal", socialist, communist...fascist...
13 posted on
07/01/2017 8:51:14 AM PDT by
gr8eman
(Facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
To: bigdaddy45
Is this the same thing?
The Left wanted to take control(the Left always does) of state elections.
This is to clean up voter rolls which have been intentionally kept dirty for political reasons, namely voter fraud.
16 posted on
07/01/2017 8:53:24 AM PDT by
joshua c
(To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
To: bigdaddy45
I agree. It is confusing. I know something has to be done. Vote fraud cannot continue. This does seem to be too invasive. Hosemann is at least partly right even if he is a douche and is probably working for the Republican establishment.
18 posted on
07/01/2017 8:53:37 AM PDT by
Crucial
To: bigdaddy45
“I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....”
We consider VOTER FRAUD in federal election to be more important than asking for (mostly) public information related to federal election.
23 posted on
07/01/2017 8:58:05 AM PDT by
BobL
(In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
To: bigdaddy45
This isn’t taking control.
30 posted on
07/01/2017 9:03:28 AM PDT by
Bogey78O
(So far so good.)
To: bigdaddy45
Having access to the physical and logical infrastructure for elections is quite a different thing from knowing who is and has been registered to vote and is voting.
33 posted on
07/01/2017 9:08:36 AM PDT by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: bigdaddy45
“I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes....”
I wouldn’t call cleaning up the voter rolls so that only valid Voters actually vote only 1 time as interfering with local elections.
Honest elections shouldn’t scare anyone. At least those who are honest and wish the best for our country.
To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes...
I must agree. As conservatives, we're supposed to support the constitutional right of the states to conduct their business as they see fit, insofar as that business is within their jurisdiction, in keeping with the 10th Amendment.
At last report, voter registration and elections were state responsibilities. True The Vote can ask for the voter data, but the Secretaries of State of the various states are free to decline the request.
Unless we have decided to give up entirely on the concept of federalism, I suppose.
53 posted on
07/01/2017 9:46:37 AM PDT by
Milton Miteybad
(I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
To: bigdaddy45
Going back to my days sitting in my Con Law class, I recall that even though the States are constitutionally-mandated to conduct all Federal elections, the Supreme Court has LONG-LONG recognized a legitimate Federal Government interest, in both Congressional and (by extension) President elections. That's why the Voting Rights Act didn't get immediately overturned (as it should have), and that (unfortunately) is why both Obama and Trump are on firm constitutional ground precedent-wise - like it or not. What has NOT happened is any Supreme Court case which defines the LIMIT of Federal interest in Federal Government-related elections which any of these US States can cite. So, as things stand, the US States are in charge, while the Fed runs things, with only a sense of Constitutional decorum to limit it. (Please don't mention the Tenth Amendment because its force died the exact moment the ink that it was first written in dried.)
63 posted on
07/01/2017 10:46:27 AM PDT by
Trentamj
To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? My thoughts, too. Really, these should just be about putting pressure on the States to fix their voter rolls. But the Feds have no right or power to request such - it isn't like opposing a poll tax or similar....
64 posted on
07/01/2017 10:48:13 AM PDT by
jeffc
(The U.S. media are our enemy)
To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? Its so confusing being a conservative sometimes.... Protecting against election fraud is a listed function of the federal government. Constitution Article IV, Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
How does the federal government act to "guarantee ... a Republican Form of Government"? By vigorously investigating and punishing any form of vote fraud, or any attempt by state governments to not abide by the will of their citizens.
Note also "and shall protect each of them against Invasion" : what is happening with our borders, if not invasion?
69 posted on
07/01/2017 11:40:26 AM PDT by
PapaBear3625
(Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
To: bigdaddy45
I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST the Federal Government interfering with local and state elections? The law requires them to interfere with Federal elections. Custom requires the democrats to steal every vote they can.
I wonder some times how any sane person can think that any elections today are any more honest than a faro wheel in the old West.
73 posted on
07/01/2017 2:12:34 PM PDT by
itsahoot
(As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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