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To: rktman
"And yet it moves" or "Albeit it does move" (Italian: E pur si muove or Eppur si muove [epˈpur si ˈmwɔːve]) is a phrase attributed to the Italian mathematician, physicist and philosopher Galileo Galilei (1564–1642) in 1633 after being forced to recant his claims that the Earth moves around the immovable[1] Sun rather than the converse during the Galileo affair.[2] In this context, the implication of the phrase is: despite his recantation, the Church's proclamations to the contrary, or any other conviction or doctrine of men, the Earth does, in fact, move (around the Sun, and not vice versa). As such, the phrase is used today as a sort of pithy retort implying that "it doesn't matter what you believe; these are the facts."
9 posted on 06/27/2017 9:03:44 AM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding.)
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To: dasboot
Aside from a fallacy, 'appeal to authority,' there is no "there" there among all those words.

Heliocentricity can be observed by anyone with education in basic math and direct observation.

Climate change cannot.

Climate change as a science is only observable over several hundred years, minimum, by non criminal actual scientists, using the well-established "scientific methods," and access to accurate and precise instruments.

Computer simulations are merely game-playing thumb sucking and incompetent, non-repeatable data manipulation.

25 posted on 06/27/2017 12:47:59 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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