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What a piece of crap obamacare is, it the gift that keeps on taking.
1 posted on 06/22/2017 1:15:40 PM PDT by johnk
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To: johnk

Congress is making a fool of Trump. All he wants is a bill so he can declare victory and move on. They’re serving up garbage. And worse, lying about it.

Ryan and McConnell are no different than Clinton wagging his finger in everyone’s face and lying.


2 posted on 06/22/2017 1:18:23 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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Remember that three things must now happen. First is the “horse trading” will begin in earnest in the senate. Lots of IOUs, promises and threats, which is how they do things there.

Second, if they do get a vote, then the bill will go to a conference committee, hand picked by house and senate leaders.

While the conference could do major hanky panky to the bill, in this case they just need to smooth edges, because if they do too much, it will fail when it goes back to the house and the senate for an up or down vote.

Last but not least, it will have to pass President Trump’s muster.

President Trump *could* mess with it, by adding a signing statement, which would reemphasize some parts and downplay other parts.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 1:24:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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To: johnk

This was just released from Zero:

(he really doesn’t want to see ALL of his work destroyed and this it is...one more thing after bamicare is the Iran deal and then his whole 8 years is erased)...

Former President Barack Obama posted a statement on twitter and facebook in response to the GOP Healthcare Bill on Saturday.

Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.

I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.

We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.

Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.

And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.

We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.

But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.

The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.

Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.

I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?

To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.

That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.

After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.
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Please notice how he says: “We worked together on this” Who is ‘WE’??? I don’t remember any Republicans voting for this POS!!!


4 posted on 06/22/2017 1:26:30 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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He suggested it was difficult to work on a bill, as Democrats remained entirely opposed to it.

“We’d love to have some Democrats’ support, but they’re obstructionists,” he said.

Don't worry about Democrats. They are not needed & will never go along. Concentrate on passing an actual Obamacare repeal, as promised.

6 posted on 06/22/2017 1:31:59 PM PDT by gdani (Everyone is a snowflake these days)
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To: johnk

I am bothered by the secrecy and bothered by the protesters at McConnell’s office and how they were treated. People have a right to be concerned about their healthcare.


7 posted on 06/22/2017 1:34:25 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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“Obamacare is dead and we’re putting a plan out today that is going to be negotiated,”

Obamacare is dead, but the plan McConnell put out today shifts the cause of death from democrat to republican.

11 posted on 06/22/2017 2:01:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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only the finished bill should be signed into law, otherwise, it will be a replay of the obozo changing it so it becomes his own personal law
12 posted on 06/22/2017 2:02:36 PM PDT by drypowder
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Senators Cruz,, Rand Paul and two others say NO.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 2:06:01 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: johnk

Don’t be fooled by Dems and the Left “freaking” out over this. They are giddy because it removes the albatross around their necks.


18 posted on 06/22/2017 2:26:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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I wish Trump would understand it isn’t the role of the federal government to replace Obamacare with a similar “plan”.

Somehow he seems impervious to the importance of the free market in this 15% of our economy, and instead seems to want to prove his healthcare Santa Claus bona fides.


24 posted on 06/22/2017 3:23:15 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: johnk

Obamacare, 2300 Pages.

The Senate Bill, 170 Pages.

Lots of room to negotiate. LOL


27 posted on 06/22/2017 3:29:38 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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