Posted on 06/21/2017 11:01:30 PM PDT by TigerClaws
If Carlos Hathcock had a McMillan Tac-50 well who knows?
That would be the M12 - ‘King Kong.’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M12_Gun_Motor_Carriage
The classic response to sniper fire is to call in artillery. Unlike most other armies, American troops would use the M12 in direct-fire mode as enormous counter-sniper weapons instead of using a barrage to flatten an area.
M12 being used in direct fire role in a city, perhaps even to respond to sniper fire. Note the gun is in full recoil. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/M-12-6.jpg
bkmk
CRACK!
SPLAT!
cool.
Glad he’s on our side.
Probably more like splat >> crack (as the sound wave catches up with the bullet)
There are more than few photos on the internet showing the outcome of being hit in the noggin by high speed high caliber sniper rounds.
One needs a strong stomach as it is now way represented accurately in Hollywood.
Movies with that level of accuracy may not get a rating less than NC 17.
I think he used a Winchester Model 70 .30-06 using an 8-power Unertl scope. Primitive by today's standards. **Once he put a round through a Viet Congs sniper scope while the two men were looking at each other, several hundred yards apart. The bullet went through the enemys scope and into the snipers head.**
*White Feather* took down the infamous *Apache*, a female Viet Cong sniper. Gunney possessed legendary skill at stalking his targets for days, inches at a time. Going without food or water.
**At his retirement ceremony, he was given a plaque with a bronzed Marine campaign cover mounted above a brass plate that reads: There have been many Marines. There have been many marksmen. But there has only been one sniperGunnery Sergeant Carlos N. Hathcock. One Shot. One Kill.
God Rest his soul. He died too young.
Hathcock was asked by a typical reporter something like “Does it ever bother you - the people that you have killed?”
“The one’s I’ve killed!? No. The one’s I missed sure bother me though. How many of my brothers did they go on to kill because I missed?
TALLEY HO!
Luck definitely played a role. He might make that shot once in a hundred tries, but most of us won’t pull it off once in 10,000 tries. Think of the 2-D gaussian scatter pattern. He must have low bias and low scatter.
I had the pleasure of meeting Gunnery Sergeant Hathcock. I asked him two questions.
1. Which shot was most satisfying?
Carlos: That damn Apache (he said it with real venom in his voice and elaborated he gave her another one “for good measure”).
2. You had 93 confirmed, how many would you estimate unconfirmed?
Carlos: I never really thought about it much but I think it’d be safe to say over 300.
Rest In Peace Marine.
Probably more like splat >> crack (as the sound wave catches up with the bullet)
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Sure, you’re right if looking at this from then perspective of the bullets recipient. I was thinking of it from the other perspective, that of standing by the side of the sniper.
Terrorist-SPLAT then CRACK
Sniper-CRACK then SPLAT
Right?
Long distance shooting is truly a “Zen” art. Just the logistics are daunting. You have to learn to reload to a consistency of about 10 fps which is a task in it’s own. Then you must learn to “read the wind” and be able to see it as “waves on the beach” and coordinate your pulse with those troughs so the bullet will suffer the least deflection. Then you have to repeat the task so many times that you squeeze with confidence as you learned to “recognize the moment”. BE the bullet. Takes dedication.
Think of the equipment White Feather was using compared to the equipment today. Also, as you say jungle shooting has it’s own issues.
“I really didn’t like the killing,” he once told a reporter.
“You’d have to be crazy to enjoy running around the woods, killing people. But if I didn’t get the enemy, they were going to kill the kids over there.” Saving American lives is something Hathcock took to heart.
Period.
Gunney called it: “The Best Shot I Ever Made”
“She was a bad woman,” Carlos Hathcock once said of the woman known as ‘Apache.’ “Normally kill squads would just kill a Marine and take his shoes or whatever, but the Apache was very sadistic. She would do anything to cause pain.” This was the trademark of the female Viet Cong platoon leader. She captured Americans in the area around Carlos Hathcock’s unit and then tortured them without mercy.
“I was in her backyard, she was in mine. I didn’t like that,” Hathcock said. “It was personal, very personal. She’d been torturing Marines before I got there.”
In November of 1966, she captured a Marine Private and tortured him within earshot of his own unit.
“She tortured him all afternoon, half the next day,” Hathcock recalls. “I was by the wire He walked out, died right by the wire.” Apache skinned the private, cut off his eyelids, removed his fingernails, and then castrated him before letting him go. Hathcock attempted to save him, but he was too late.
Carlos Hathcock had enough. He set out to kill Apache before she could kill any more Marines. One day, he and his spotter got a chance. The observed an NVA sniper platoon on the move. At 700 yards in, one of them stepped off the trail and Hathcock took what he calls the best shot he ever made.
“We were in the midst of switching rifles. We saw them,” he remembered. “I saw a group coming, five of them. I saw her squat to pee, that’s how I knew it was her. They tried to get her to stop, but she didn’t stop. I stopped her. I put one extra in her for good measure.”
All terrorists are "civilians".
Here he is serving is country by killing Islamists, and back home his government is welcoming Islamists through the front door.
Sigh.
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