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A Reality Check about What Handel’s Win Means [NeverTrump]
National Review (Corner) ^ | 6/21/17 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/21/2017 5:21:23 AM PDT by madprof98

On the other hand, a Handel win is not anywhere near the victory/mandate/endorsement the Trump team will claim it to be. This is a Republican district. The only reason it was close: A lot of Republicans voted for a Democrat. So, the GOP victory on the merits is pretty limited. Spending enough money to scald a wet mule (to borrow a phrase from Haley Barbour) to hold on to a district that Tom Price (Trump’s HHS secretary) and Newt Gingrich held is not a sign of Republican health.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: preeningrino; rinosalwayslie; rinosheeple; whiningrino
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To: laxcoach

And will continue to get more blue. I left that district in 2009 for a better school district. Getting to be one of those private school only kind of districts for people with money. Some of the public schools are only 10% white in much of the southern portion of the district.


41 posted on 06/21/2017 6:33:20 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: GreenHornet

hehehe


42 posted on 06/21/2017 6:33:51 AM PDT by Osage Orange (ItÂ’s nice to be important, but itÂ’s more important to be nice.)
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To: madprof98

CUCK


43 posted on 06/21/2017 6:45:16 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Codeflier

I live on the edge of it. My son just graduated from Henderson middle school and is going to the very local Catholic school for HS. My daughter just got into the magnet program - if not she would have gone to private school for MS. Henderson is ... not ideal


44 posted on 06/21/2017 6:49:22 AM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Dont forget Ben Shapiro. The whole K street “conservative” group is now whining about the inmates running the asylum. they simply want control.


45 posted on 06/21/2017 6:52:21 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Please no!


46 posted on 06/21/2017 6:54:30 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Helicondelta
The only way the democrats can retake congress is by winning in republican districts. And open races are far easier than the incumbent races of the midterms. The democrats are screwed.

Especially when they have spent the last 8 years worshiping their Obama messiah and now have lost middle America. 30% of the Democrats in the house are from CA or NY. The plan was to have their Obama who everyone loved all over the world, take matters into his own hands and shove through EO's, regulations, change immigration laws, the Dem party sat by, thinking their Potus could do it all then they would be the winners, don't need congress. So they did not develop any up and coming congress or senate candidates, they have nobody, who will they run for POTUS?

They are so sheltered and close minded, it is frightening how off the mark they are. Never once have I heard one Dem, say, maybe American does not like our policies?

47 posted on 06/21/2017 6:57:30 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: madprof98

Hey Jonah, covfeve! ...


48 posted on 06/21/2017 7:00:08 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (FREEP U, Schmucky O'Putz!)
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To: madprof98; LucyT
This analysis is wrong.

The district is drifting toward the Dems as a result of expansion of the urban footprint. The numbers look to me like a 51.5/48.5 split at this point; in the future it will become a tossup district unless the lines are changed.

Both candidates were relatively poor choices. Ossoff for obvious reasons; Handle a little less obvious because the R's here tend more conservative than the split implies and she is probably more liberal and less pro Trump than the district.

Fact that she beats the split is in fact a real indictment of the Dems strategically--this was a winnable race for the D's which they muffed because they still don't understand where the electorate is going.

On the other hand it is not as much cause for celebration as a win by a more pro Trump conservative would have been. Handel is not likely to be knocked out in a primary in 2018 either unless she proves to be an obvious inconsistency with where the district wants to go.

49 posted on 06/21/2017 7:07:06 AM PDT by David
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To: caver
This election was nationalized...so comparisons to past elections in the district are flawed.

Somebody up thread has pointed out that the rats best chance to gain seats is not by challenging incumbents, but rather winning open seats. To date, they have failed miserably at that, which bodes well for 2018.

50 posted on 06/21/2017 7:11:29 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: USS Alaska
The demonRATS out spent the pubbies by $10 MILLION when an average house race is won/lost with less than 2 million being spent.

IIRC demtards spent $40 million and repubs 4.5 million.

51 posted on 06/21/2017 7:12:08 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: madprof98

NR, stick to what you know and stay out of GA poltics which you are totally clueless about.

The showing last night shows a lot of voters who did not vote for Trump in Nov 16 are warming to him. This election was marketed at a “Referendum on Trump” and your team LOST, badly.

But step up, take a bow. You never trumpers almost won the election for Hillary. This district had about 25,000 fewer votes for Trump then voted for GOP Senator Johnny Issacson. So you Never Trumpers did have a significant impact in depression Trumps turnout in GOP strongholds.

And don’t think your rabid poltical idiocy is ever going to be forgiven or forgotten NR.


52 posted on 06/21/2017 7:31:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: caver

Actually that paragraph is completely wrong. It wasn’t even close. It was a pretty standard GA special election result.

And it wasn’t even close despite Democrats dumping $35 millions into the race.

NR needs to stick to DC politics and stay out of analysis of GA politics since they demonstrated here they have NO CLUE what they are talking about here


53 posted on 06/21/2017 7:34:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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And he lost to the first woman Representative elected from Georgia!

54 posted on 06/21/2017 7:35:56 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
Actually he lost to the first Republican woman elected to Congress.

Cynthia McKinney, D-Nutcase, was the first woman elected to Congress from Georgia.

55 posted on 06/21/2017 7:43:08 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: madprof98

This seat is up for election in 2018.
That is where the real rubber meets the road.
they wont have long to wait for a rerun.


56 posted on 06/21/2017 7:44:50 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: caver

Yes, knowing the truth, you can.

The “narrative” is that this is such a strong republican district. The truth is that they have been trying to water down republican strength through redistricting since Newt’s days. The truth is the candidate herself is more of an open borders RINO than many would like to see.

So, was Trump repudiated or were the NeverTrump-loving RINOs?


57 posted on 06/21/2017 7:56:17 AM PDT by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14; praise God for His great merc)
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To: exit82

That’s what I meant — thanks for the correction. :^)


58 posted on 06/21/2017 8:02:21 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: madprof98

Several points.
One it wasn’t close. Close is 1-2% 3% is a win 4% is a solid win.
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Two. Once again the MSM and the Talking Heads had Ossoff already marked in the winners column! Because of Trump. So if Ossoff lost, how is that not a good thing for Trump?
Three. Once again big money and solid backing from the MSM media (think Hillary Clinton) lost an election.
Four. Still unable to accept or understand a loss the Progs and the MSM are offering up anything and everything as reason for the loss including the weather!
If I were President Trump I would be in a very good mood today!


59 posted on 06/21/2017 8:27:34 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: Political Junkie Too; governsleastgovernsbest
18 candidates ran in the primary: Ossoff, 1 other demonrat, and 16 republicans.

The democrat ran as a anti-waste, "conservative" candidate "who will fight Washington" for MONTHS - NEVER mentioning the word "democrat" in ANY advertisement on the conservative talk shows and local TV media outlets!

On democrat (black and jazz and rap stations) he ran as a liberal democrat, KNOWING that the white conservative voters would never see both ads at the same audience.

It WAS a "Vote Trump" election the last 10 days, when voters saw what the national press was doing.

60 posted on 06/21/2017 8:38:42 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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