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Guilty Verdict for Young Woman Who Urged Friend to Kill Himself
The New York Times ^
| 06/16/2017
| Jess Bidgoodjune
Posted on 06/17/2017 2:52:43 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: LostInBayport
If you listen to the judge (this was not a jury trial), you may see it differently.
To: House Atreides; bigbob
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posted on
06/17/2017 3:47:34 PM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
To: LostInBayport
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posted on
06/17/2017 3:57:14 PM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
To: AbolishCSEU
Yep..and I’m a female.....I have female family members that think the world spins around them.....well I don’t spin and they know it so of course they don’t “like” me much as in their thinking if you don’t spin then you’re “mean”. LOLOL
However when push comes to shove and they want solid advice on what to do guess who they ask???..and they always follow it and are not sorry they do. I’d rather be a guide than “liked”....I suspect that will change when they get into their 20’s...and I’ll have both!
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:03:36 PM PDT
by
caww
To: Trump20162020
To: Trump20162020
Everyone should be concerned about this ruling because liberals would use this kind of thinking to prosecute Limbaugh, Hannity, and anyone they don’t like.
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:24:24 PM PDT
by
libertylover
(In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
To: Trump20162020
She is the epitome of a real life Succubus.
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:25:11 PM PDT
by
higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
To: LostInBayport
I also have zero sympathy for her and believe it is an overreach of the law. He chose to ‘obey.’
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:29:09 PM PDT
by
bboop
(does not suffer fools gladly)
To: livius
Michelle Carter....Guilty....
The "Look" that says you need to feel sorry for me please....'I promised him I would help his parents and family through their grief".....
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:31:46 PM PDT
by
caww
To: Trump20162020
“Three elements must be satisfied in order for someone to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter:
Someone was killed as a result of the defendant’s actions.
The act either was inherently dangerous to others or done with reckless disregard for human life.
The defendant knew or should have known his or her conduct was a threat to the lives of others.”
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/involuntary-manslaughter-overview.html
Sounds like this qualifies.
To: Trump20162020
But Oregon can force the death of senile seniors and everyone is okay with that.
To: LostInBayport
...
The young man died by his own hand, not hers. So she was "cold and vile" but fortunately (for her) she didn't break any law.
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:37:32 PM PDT
by
luvbach1
(I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
To: caww
Conrad exited the car when he realised the carbon monoxide poisoning was taking effect... Carter told him to get back in the truck. He died soon afterwards and his body was found in his pick-up truck after his parents reported him missing. In the time between Conrads death and his body being found, Carter had contacted his family to ask if they knew where he was.
Just a glance at some of the messages she bombarded him with....
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:43:51 PM PDT
by
caww
To: caww
Pretty guilty. And by that I mean she’s pretty and she’s completely guilty.
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:47:07 PM PDT
by
OldNewYork
(Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
To: All
Just as the driver of a getaway car is as responsible for the injuries and/or deaths caused by a bank heist, this female is just as guilty.
I have NO sympathy.
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posted on
06/17/2017 4:47:17 PM PDT
by
Utilizer
(Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mohammedems trying to kill them)
To: LostInBayport; samtheman; libertylover; luvbach1
I have zero sympathy for her and wouldnt piss on her if she was on fire... but to me this is an overreach of law. I agree. The young man died by his own hand, not hers. I understand wanting to punish her for being so cold and vile, but that should not come at the expense of reason. Harsh as it may sound, this is symptomatic of the "it's somebody else's fault" mentality much of our society has embraced in recent
Brainwashing is real.
Gaslighting describes a dynamic observed in some cases of marital infidelity: "Therapists may contribute to the victim's distress through mislabeling the woman's reactions. [
] The gaslighting behaviors of the spouse provide a recipe for the so-called 'nervous breakdown' for some women [and] suicide in some of the worst situations."[13][10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GaslightingJoseph Goebbels showed us that words can be weapons. The old adage, "the pen is mightier than the sword" still holds.
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posted on
06/17/2017 5:04:40 PM PDT
by
higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
To: luvbach1
So she was "cold and vile" but fortunately (for her) she didn't break any law.
I care not for her fortunes. What I do care about is a slippery slope where people are prosecuted and jailed because a judge decided their words "triggered" someone and "made them" do harm to their own self or others.
Think like a liberal for a moment, and imagine how this could be used. The chattering class bent over backwards this week to distance James Hodgkinson from Bernie Sanders and Rachel Maddow. Do you think they'd be so considerate if the political poles were reversed, or would they scour hours of tape to find a clip that could be twisted into an incitement for murder?
The judge made an emotional decision. I can see why, looking at the photo of the young man upthread. But it was still the wrong one.
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posted on
06/17/2017 5:10:24 PM PDT
by
LostInBayport
(When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
To: LostInBayport
You may be right but it would be hard to accept the notion that she doesn’t deserve some punishment for her “vile and cold” act(s).
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posted on
06/17/2017 5:14:19 PM PDT
by
luvbach1
(I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
To: LostInBayport
I care not for her fortunes. What I do care about is a slippery slope where people are prosecuted and jailed because a judge decided their words "triggered" someone and "made them" do harm to their own self or others.Read it again or listen to the judge. He said she was guilty of not trying to stop him from lethal harm. How do you think that could be turned against a Conservative? Even Asimov's robot would be bound to stop the kid's death.
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posted on
06/17/2017 5:29:32 PM PDT
by
higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
To: caww
I too am female and am appalled by what I see. The courts are so biased against fathers its incredible. The mom can show up to court with the blood of her own children on her hands and the judges will still award her custody.
Females raised in the last 40 years have been told by “feminists” that they are God’s gift to mankind and that the man is merely a slave to do their bidding.
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posted on
06/17/2017 5:33:18 PM PDT
by
AbolishCSEU
(Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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