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UPDATE - USS Fitzgerald involved in collision
US Navy web site ^ | 16-June-2017

Posted on 06/17/2017 3:16:48 AM PDT by topher

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To: Capt_Hank

If the Navy ship had invisibility it had jolly well be watching out, being in a traffic zone too. Somebody slept at the helm?


41 posted on 06/17/2017 4:23:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mewzilla

That could very well be where the missing sailors are...


42 posted on 06/17/2017 4:24:46 AM PDT by piasa
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No sabotage,too many people to stop it. If a helmsmen wanted to commit suicide by collision it would be pretty obvious.


43 posted on 06/17/2017 4:25:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mewzilla

Seems intentional by container ship. Were they Muslim? Did they think our ship was from a different nation? Were those on the cargo ship drunk?

Was the container ship containing something illegal, like human slaves?


44 posted on 06/17/2017 4:26:18 AM PDT by madison10 (My language has gotten 10 times worse since June 14 2017.)
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To: Pollster1
The captain leaves standing night orders for the overnight watch standers. Typically these will, among other things, instruct the officer-of-the-deck to call the captain if the ship gets within x distance (captain's preference) of another ship. Some OOD's are so averse to waking the captain they can wait too long to make the call.

Don't know what happened here, but it sounds like the captain may have been on the bridge wing where the collision occurred.

45 posted on 06/17/2017 4:27:20 AM PDT by Gee Wally
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To: Fhios

After that idiotic incident with the Iranians and the riverine boats a while back I suspect the state of the Navy training and morale is exceedingly poor.


46 posted on 06/17/2017 4:29:34 AM PDT by piasa
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To: central_va
After the USS Cole, I've been concerned about what would happen if a hijacked civilian vessel was used to attack one of our naval ships.
47 posted on 06/17/2017 4:31:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Likely the container ship was in full reverse, else given its speed (17-25kts) and mass would have gone right over the Navy boat, like a speed bump.


48 posted on 06/17/2017 4:32:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: piasa

After 8 years of Obama, our military has far too many anti American snowflakes there for the benefits and lacking patriotism. Sad!


49 posted on 06/17/2017 4:34:27 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As I understand it, the merchant ship T-boned the Destroyer. How in the WORLD?!!!


50 posted on 06/17/2017 4:36:16 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Known as the Father of modern agriculture)
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To: central_va

“It will be scrutinized to death ad nauseum.”

That’s a lot of scrutiny. First, until we die, and then until we’re nauseous.


51 posted on 06/17/2017 4:38:45 AM PDT by boknows
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To: boknows

Every officer and NCO will be interviewed. Most of the enlisted will be also. A million photographs will be taken before reconstruction starts. Diagrams and animations will be created. This one accident will be a cottage industry. This one incident will generate thousands of man hours for contractors, it is a boondoggle bonanza.


52 posted on 06/17/2017 4:43:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Fhios
I suspect NKOR engineered accident.

You can't be serious. If one even had the intention of engineering such an event, how would you orchestrate having the U.S. ship plow into the bow of a cargo ship in the middle of a shipping lane?

53 posted on 06/17/2017 4:44:17 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: topher

The container ship is 29,000 tons, kinda small for that category.
Regardless of which ship had the right-of-way both, and esp the smaller more maneuverable ship, have an obligation to avoid a collision.
IMO the Fitzgerald is at fault.

Hope the captain had a good major in college, he’ll need it.


54 posted on 06/17/2017 4:44:49 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Tucker39

Purposeful on the part of container ship, maybe? Terrorism to some extent?


55 posted on 06/17/2017 4:46:11 AM PDT by madison10 (My language has gotten 10 times worse since June 14 2017.)
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To: madison10

Naw. I misread. Thought container ship plowed into side of USS Fitzgerald.


56 posted on 06/17/2017 4:48:43 AM PDT by madison10 (My language has gotten 10 times worse since June 14 2017.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Getting struck at the middle of the ship by a much larger vessel certainly shows the basic physics at work. It clearly was not a glancing blow so the info on collision avoidance and maneuvering is going to be key to the investigation. The damage also appears to be at a seam line between sections as that is where the waterline breach is evident in one photo so design and fabrication are going to be called into question.

There’s no way the captain and the OOD have any career left. However, if the USS Cole could be re-built after that terrorist attack, it seems possible the Fitz could yet continue as a ship of the line.

Thanks for the article with the great photos!


57 posted on 06/17/2017 4:49:20 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Doogle

I’ll bet his stateroom is right there at the impact point. There are four staterooms on the main deck, 2 on the starboard below the navigation bridge. He was probably asleep when the ships collided.

Not having been on an Arleigh Burke class, I’m guessing that is Officer Country.

The others could have been in the damaged and flooded accommodation spaces.


58 posted on 06/17/2017 4:50:20 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Capt_Hank
Here's a photo of the Phillipine flagged Acx Crystal.

Hardly a stealth profile in normal sea conditions.

source

FleetMon - tracking the seven seas

59 posted on 06/17/2017 4:51:09 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: madison10

Was the destroyer under way at the time of the collision, anyone know?


60 posted on 06/17/2017 4:51:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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