Posted on 06/16/2017 2:55:23 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: This story I just saw, and I wanted to bring it to your attention. Its from The Daily Caller. The headline: Deadly London Tower Fire Fueled By Green Energy Rules Londons Grenfell Tower was made worse by government green energy requirements that allowed fire to rapidly engulf the building Wednesday, leaving at least 17 people dead and scores more wounded or missing.

Did Green Energy Rules Fuel the London Inferno?
Jun 16, 2017
RUSH: This story I just saw, and I wanted to bring it to your attention. Its from The Daily Caller. The headline: Deadly London Tower Fire Fueled By Green Energy Rules Londons Grenfell Tower was made worse by government green energy requirements that allowed fire to rapidly engulf the building Wednesday, leaving at least 17 people dead and scores more wounded or missing.
While its unknown what sparked the fire, experts say that the cladding, or exterior insulation, created a chimney effect through which the fire rapidly spread upwards. The cladding was added to Grenfells exterior in 2015 as part of a $12.8 million retrofit. I have never seen a fire that has engulfed an entire building like this in a career of more than 30 years, Matt Wrack, who heads the Fire Brigades Union, told The Telegraph. It could be that this is the quest for sustainability trumping other concerns, echoed Dr. Jim Glockling of the Fire Protection Association. There has been an emerging body of evidence surrounding some of the materials being used and now we have an appalling demonstration of what can happen, Glockling said.
Wouldnt that be what, ironic that the green crowd got in there and demanded a retrofit of this building to enforce sustainable green energy requirements, and the requirements ended up turning the whole building into a tinderbox? Green energy rules might have led to it.
Im surprised this story even got out. Normally the Drive-Bys in the U.K. would want to suppress anything anybody out there happens to be saying about something like this. But, you know, its true, if you look in many areas where green, sustainable energy is being employed, like windmills are killing birds left and right and causing havoc in communities, and theyre not generating much power, and its a disaster.
The solar industry is an absolute disaster. The number of panels that you need to create so little electricity that you cant really effectively run anything on them. If you have a cloudy day youre sunk. And every one of these industries is wildly subsidized. They couldnt make it on their own. There simply isnt a market for these new sustainable green energy things, wind and solar. By that, I mean theres no way to make a profit.
Even Elon Musk. Elon Musk has been subsidized to over $4 billion. I dont know if the young tech crowd even knows it, but Elon Musk did not even found Tesla. Did you know that? You didnt know that? No. He bought Tesla from its original founders. No, its not a big deal. Im just pointing it out. Its just a little known fact. But the point is even Musk has gotten over $4 billion in subsidies in order to make this electric car.
I hear people raving Tim Cook at Apple the other day was somewhere and he was raving. Oh, Apples new product. Apple is trying to design software for an autonomous car, self-driving car. Cook announced that in an interview at Bloomberg. And let me tell you something as an aside. If Apple is developing the software and the mechanisms for a self-driving car, then you can bet Apple is also developing a car.
The one thing Apple does not do is build software for other peoples stuff. And this is an edict going all the way back to Steve Jobs. Theyre gonna do an iPhone, theyre gonna own it all. Theyre gonna own the hardware. Theyre gonna own the software and theyre gonna eventually own as much in it as they can, and they are in the process of having their own chip division. The thing is Apple never writes software for somebody elses hardware.
So if theyre building a system for a self-driving car then, by definition, Apples developing their own car as well. Where are they gonna test it? But, anyway, when he was doing this, he was talking about (paraphrasing), Isnt it such a pleasure to get in your electric car and never have to stop at a gas station. Never have to stop at a filling station. You get in your electric car and you drive down the road and every time you pass a gas station, you just wave at em knowing you never have to stop.

Well, I mean, I guess thats cool. But you do have to find some place to park your car for a number of hours to charge it up. The thing that I dont get about the electric car I actually get it. I just think its interesting to point out. Where do they think the batteries in these cars get their juice? When they plug those cars in to recharge the batteries, wheres the juice coming from? Ninety-nine out of a hundred places its coming from a coal-fired power plant.
Theyre all opposed to coal. Theyre opposed to coal because its dirty and its filthy and it pollutes and its a dark color. You dont want it on your clothes, its icky. We dont like coal, its horrible. And yet they couldnt drive their electric cars without coal-fired power plants. They tell themselves they are somehow saving energy and they are developing renewable, clean energy, and yet it requires coal, clean coal or otherwise, in order to fire up the batteries in their cars so they can drive past gas stations and wave when they go by.
How do you rationalize that? How do you on one hand talk of how coal is yesterdays news, you hate it, you despise it, its dirty, its filthy, and then you go out and design a revolutionary product that cannot operate without it? And then you never mention coal and you never mention conventional electricity. You just talk about your brand-new battery tech, which is basically charging in capacity, but there is no alternative way to get juice onto a battery that does not use a massive supply of electricity, which still in this country is created mostly by coal-fired power plants. I think it is gigantic hypocrisy.
I feel so sorry for those poor people affected by this fire.
Regardless of their ethnic/religious background they have every right to be furious with the envirowackos.
I knew the instant I heard about this that it was basically a carbon copy of a fire in a 28 storey building that I saw in Shanghai in 2010. That too was an ‘energy efficiency upgrade’. I believe that there was also a similar fire in Australia a number of years ago.
The green rules worked from the Left’s perspective.
There are 17 less people on this earth who exhale CO2.
The green rules worked from the Left’s perspective.
There are 17 less people on this earth who exhale CO2.
My thought was, “What did they coat the building with? Its going up like the Hindenburg!” Thermite paint? Or a nefarious accelerant?
It went up, POOF!
Its going to be a whole lot more than 17 people dead.
Celotex 5000 PIR board.
They went extra thick to save even more energy.
Yes, that is the case.
The Guardian has the list of companies that worked on the job. They are blaming the companies and not the regulations.
The refit was all about meeting global warming reduction goals. They had no paragraphs on fire safety. none.
Here is the 2012 Design proposal by
“Grenfell Tower regeneration Project Sustainability and energy statement planning application”
“The London Plan July 2011 aims to conserve energy. A defined energy hierarchy should be followed. This hierarchy is as follows: “
“Manufacturers Omnis Exteriors has now confirmed to the Guardian it supplied Reynobond PE cladding to contractors Harley Facades for the project.he aluminium panels are £2 per square metre cheaper than Reynobond FR panels which are fire resistant.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3806536/cladding-grenfell-tower-flammable-cheap/
Fire started on the 4th floor in Behailu Kebede’s apartment.
“The man ‘whose faulty fridge started tower inferno’: Neighbour reveals how Ethiopian taxi driver raised the alarm when deadly blaze started in his fourth-floor kitchen
Behailu Kebede raised the alarm as the Grenfell Tower inferno began to spread, his neighbours have said
Father of one, a taxi driver from Ethiopia, discovered the fire in his fourth floor kitchen ahead of blaze
Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour’s door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives
Tower block resident Maryam Adam said he knocked on her door to warn her at 12.50am on Tuesday night
At 12.54am, a resident called 999 and the first engines arrived at the scene in west London within six minutes
After 15 minutes, most of the tower was alight, 30 minutes later the building was engulfed in flames”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4606078/Man-faulty-fridge-started-Grenfell-Tower-inferno.html#ixzz4kD1aOxCL
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I don't think this is true. I was using Apple iTunes on Windows machines long before using it on a Mac, for operating an iPod on Windows. Written specifically to operate on Intel platforms while Macs were not. There may be other examples.
We creepers were discussing this on FR within a few hours of the fire getting out of control. FR helped spread the story.
(Freepers, not creepers!)
We FRreepers were discussing this on FR within a few hours of the fire getting out of control. FR helped spread the story.
The Green Freaks only cause Death and Destruction
They coulda used mineral wool which is 15% less energy efficient per inch but since its glass is non-combustible.
The EPS foam is dirt cheap for huge insulating factor, that’s why so many people use it.
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