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Grenfell Tower fire: Police cordon pushed back amid fears Notting Hill tower block could collapse
MSN/ Evening Standard ^ | June 14, 2017

Posted on 06/14/2017 2:09:54 AM PDT by SMGFan

The police cordon surrounding a huge tower block fire in Notting Hill has been pushed back amid concerns the whole building could collapse.

An exclusion zone was set up overnight as flames raged through the 27-storey Grenfell Tower near Ladbroke Grove causing debris to crash down the side of the building. As firefighters continued to battle the flames on Wednesday morning the cordon has reportedly been widened over concerns about the stability of the building, which contains 120 flats and is located in a densely populated area of west London.

A Met Police spokeswoman confirmed there were “significant cordons” in place and said they would release a further statement later.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asbestos; fire; globalwarminghoax; greenbuildings; grenfelltower; inferno; london; nottinghill; unitedkingdom
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Going to be difficult to find remains of any victims which pray there are few.
1 posted on 06/14/2017 2:09:54 AM PDT by SMGFan
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Heard a young man interviewed several hours ago on BBC. He has lived in the building his entire life—23 years. Said the building had been recently “rejuvenated,” including new windows and the the exterior “clapboard.” He said the exterior facade is what appeared to be spreading the fire so quickly.


2 posted on 06/14/2017 2:19:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: SMGFan

The few remains there will have been cremated quite thoroughly, I am sure.

My sympathies to those who lost loved ones. NOBODY deserves to die that way. Nobody.


3 posted on 06/14/2017 2:20:11 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: NautiNurse; Pontiac

I wonder if they retrofitted with an EIFS - Exterior Insulation and Funish System. While flame spread/smoke developed ratings of the foam are typically constrained by building codes, the foam *is* ultimately flammable.

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2008/08/construction-concerns-exterior-insulation-finishing-system.html


4 posted on 06/14/2017 2:31:37 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SMGFan

But buildings don’t collapse due to fire according to the 9/11 “truthers”.


5 posted on 06/14/2017 2:38:14 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: FreedomPoster

I bought some supposedly fire retarding foam what a joke burn faster then the material around it when I tested it.


6 posted on 06/14/2017 2:47:04 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: FreedomPoster

I bought some supposedly fire retarding foam what a joke burn faster then the material around it when I tested it.


7 posted on 06/14/2017 2:48:10 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: FreedomPoster

article hints at EPS or similar insulated cladding added

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/14/fire-safety-concerns-raised-by-grenfell-tower-residents-in-2012

extremely nasty stuff once it ignites - toxic smoke, difficult to kill.


8 posted on 06/14/2017 3:12:36 AM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: NautiNurse

academic paper on the likely cladding used

http://www.probyn-miers.com/perspective/2016/02/fire-risks-from-external-cladding-panels-perspective-from-the-uk/

BTW firm that installed cladding went bust


9 posted on 06/14/2017 3:19:43 AM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: SMGFan

I wish I could do more than pray for all affected by this horrific tragedy.


10 posted on 06/14/2017 3:30:10 AM PDT by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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This reminds me of a news special I saw when I was a kid.

A spray on foam insulation that worked well as a fire insulation if applied on a horizontal surface.

But if applied to a vertical surface was practically an accelerant that gave off toxic fumes.

11 posted on 06/14/2017 3:38:34 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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Just heard on the BBC News channel a guy who lived in the area saying there had been problems and complaints with that building for a long time but there was renewed hope when a leftist was elected to represent that area just last week.

Unless I'm mistaken that building was "social housing"...meaning welfare housing.

Just sayin'....

12 posted on 06/14/2017 3:42:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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Reminds me of that high rise fire in Dubai last year. Flames looked like they were spreading over the exterior in that fire, IIRC...


13 posted on 06/14/2017 3:45:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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LiveLeak videos didn't hear any English being spoken.
14 posted on 06/14/2017 3:58:40 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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I assume you bought a fire block foam. If you read the label, it’s not meant to be a flame retardant. The industry required terminology is fireblock but the products actual use is to prevent air and toxic gases from moving between rooms through floor and wall penetrations in the event of a fire.

It’s designed to give occupants a safer means of escape.


15 posted on 06/14/2017 4:04:12 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: SMGFan

I wonder if setting large buildings on fire is a new muzzie tactic. No wait, it started with the World Trade Center on 9/11.


16 posted on 06/14/2017 4:15:35 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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SIX dead as blaze 'sparked by faulty fridge' engulfs 27-storey London tower block: Trapped residents hurl themselves from windows while others make ropes from sheets as fire gripped tower 'in just 15 minutes'

100+ picture gallery at link.

17 posted on 06/14/2017 4:20:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: SueRae

I wish I could do more than pray for all affected by this horrific tragedy.


To put in perspective: this is just the one you know about. If you were God and could see every single human tragedy going on in the world at all times, you would always see a LOT of tragedies much worse (for the individuals) than this going on around the world ALL the time.

It is just that sometimes there are cameras around and we see it before our eyes. In the time this building burned, there were a LOT of brutal rapes, spouse beatings, murders, auto accident fatalities and other accidental deaths and maimings.

Not to downplay this, but I find it necessary to do that mental exercise when I see those pictures of a kid with cancer or some other illness on facebook asking for a like. I scan past them like they are not there.

If you could really SEE all the evil happening in the world right now, you would go insane.


18 posted on 06/14/2017 4:39:48 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: fella; All

Thanks for the post(s). Interesting; informative.


19 posted on 06/14/2017 4:47:41 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: FreedomPoster

In videos, you could see burning melted material falling off the building in spurts and streams. Exterior foam insulation board is a good guess, I think.


20 posted on 06/14/2017 5:44:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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