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Unemployment Is Approaching A Historic Low. So Why Aren't Wages Shooting Up?
BuzzFeed ^ | 06/01/2017 | Matthew Zeitlin

Posted on 06/01/2017 11:23:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There's something weird going on with the US economy.

It's steadily adding new jobs, at a pace of about 185,000 every month. Unemployment keeps falling: at 4.4%, it's at its lowest since May, 2007. But people's wages aren't growing at the rate you'd expect them to when unemployment is this low and hiring is so healthy.

So what's happening? One explanation is there's a larger pool of people who are starting to look for work — people who weren't previously considered unemployed. If that's the case, companies don't need to boost wages to compete for workers, because there's more people out there who had given up even trying to find a job until recently — and now they're coming back into the workforce.

That scenario depends on what percentage of the adult population are "participating" in the labor market, either by working or looking for a job. The labor force participation rate has been in decline since 2000, thanks in large part to the aging US population. But it held steady in the last two years, and the unemployment rate fell to a historic low, suggesting plenty of people who were counted as being out of the labor force have been rejoining it as the economy improves, even as older people drop out entirely.

Why those people left the workforce, and why some are returning, has become a popular guessing game among economists trying to figure out one of great mysteries of today's economy.

Federal Reserve researchers argued in 2014 that "nearly half of the decline" in labor force participation was due to the the growing number of baby boomers hitting retirement age. But what about the other half?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: unemployment; wages
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1 posted on 06/01/2017 11:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I can think of a few reasons:

* The new jobs are entry-level and don’t pay well
* The new jobs are service jobs and do not pay as well as manufacturing or construction
* Unemployment isn’t as low as it is being reported


2 posted on 06/01/2017 11:26:06 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

1. The U-3 is baloney and 2. those 95 million people taken out of the workforce during Obama’s administration and not counted anymore.


3 posted on 06/01/2017 11:27:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How about another chart showing labor participation rates, and another showing underemployment, and then maybe you will find your answer.
4 posted on 06/01/2017 11:28:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The key is that the real inflation rate is not what is reported, so while social security income is not rising very much the costs of goods and services that seniors use (health care, food, and rents are the major ones) are rising very quickly.

As a result the seniors that are “out of the work-force” are re-entering the workforce and competing for many (especially service sector) jobs.


5 posted on 06/01/2017 11:28:33 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: SeekAndFind
U-6 numbers need to come down more.

The employment surge began in earnest in January. It'll take a little longer.

Lastly, these need to be REAL jobs. Too many people working fast food and part time.

When part time jobs become full time, then wages will rise.

6 posted on 06/01/2017 11:28:55 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because the unemployment numbers have been falsified for the last eight years.


7 posted on 06/01/2017 11:30:57 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: SeekAndFind

Wages will rise when a substantial number of the illegal aliens in the workforce are deported and a substantial number of those American INVOLUNTARILY unemployed and considered not in the workforce begin to reenter employment.


8 posted on 06/01/2017 11:31:03 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: kosciusko51

I think you are touching on something.

It might not be that they are all “entry” level, but in the past year we’ve updated a lot of our telecom systems and the result was that we could handle more calls with a lot fewer people. And since we could route the calls to the proper group (with the proper skills) the “new jobs” were not only entry level, but the skill set to do the job dropped by a measure of two or three.

Literally, the toughest skill for the entry level job is the ability to show up on time, and communicate in english.


9 posted on 06/01/2017 11:31:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SeekAndFind
Why those people left the workforce, and why some are returning, has become a popular guessing game among economists trying to figure out one of great mysteries of today's economy.

Obamacare killed the 40-hour work week, forcing small businesses to keep people's hours under 30 per week?

Obamacare made small businesses keep headcount under 50?

-PJ

10 posted on 06/01/2017 11:31:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Yo-Yo

You bring up a good point. Do What should the labor participation rate be to show strong employment?


11 posted on 06/01/2017 11:31:42 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: SeekAndFind

The unemployment rate is a phony. The people who became frustrated and gave up aren’t counted. They may be starting to come out of the woodwork as things improve. In any case, the pool of the unemployed is much greater than 4.4 pct.


12 posted on 06/01/2017 11:34:27 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unemployment Is Approaching A Historic Low. So Why Aren't Wages Shooting Up?

1. Required employment skills advance..., education and labor skills decline.

2. Definition of BLS "Unemployment" revised to understate the true employment conditions.

3. Employment of illegal aliens continues to become the "Norm", thus reducing the value of labor... Add others as you will....

13 posted on 06/01/2017 11:37:11 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: kosciusko51; All

Under Obama, the Feds screwed with the formula. The measurement matrix should be reset back to the pre-Obama norm.


14 posted on 06/01/2017 11:37:12 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yup.


15 posted on 06/01/2017 11:37:41 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll take “Because the Numbers are Bogus” for $100, Alex.


16 posted on 06/01/2017 11:39:22 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Pietro

I think the unemployment numbers have been falsified for a lot longer than eight years. I was a young man in the sixties when the unemployment rate was officially slightly HIGHER than what they claim now. Anyone who did NOT want a job had to hide. People with well paid full time jobs often had a part time job as well. It bore absolutely no resemblance to the current situation. If we got to that point now they would have to report the unemployment rate as MINUS ten or more percent.

I only wish I had had the maturity to take full advantage of the opportunity that was everywhere then.


17 posted on 06/01/2017 11:42:03 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: kosciusko51

No, mfg jobs growing rapidly. Lots of high wage jobs.
Real unemployment falling.

There is no wage inflation (although Americans’ household income is at RECORD highs) because we are still catching up from a massive 20 year worldwide DEFLATION.


18 posted on 06/01/2017 11:52:50 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

Many of the businesses that are coming back will require investment in factories and equipment and that takes time. Most of the manufacturing companies left behind empty and decaying buildings


19 posted on 06/01/2017 11:56:03 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: SeekAndFind
Actually Household income, wages are a feature of that income, has increased more in the last four months than in the entirety of Obama’s presidency.
20 posted on 06/01/2017 11:57:11 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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