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To: Arthur McGowan; TigerClaws; Covenantor
Thanks for your kind words.

The only thing I should have written differently was that "then simple arithmetical counting of votes was an invalid method for determining the winner" should have said, "then simple arithmetical counting of votes was an invalid method for determining legitimacy".

I've used that concept, about the Democrats and their Republican friends, before - the key issue for them isn't "who is the winner?", but rather, "is the winner legitimate, i.e., should the winner be left in peace to serve his term and to fulfill the duties of his office, or not?"

The working out of this idea, novel in 2000, has brought us to a situation where the Left's opposition can't ever win, even when they win.

Many people here see this as hypocrisy, or a scam - that is, the Left knows that the winner (Trump, at the moment) is legitimate, but they deny it for some sort of advantage.

It's more complicated than that.

The Left has infected itself with the mind virus of Marxism-Leninism. Lenin's fundamental contribution to the century of bloodbaths was to articulate the concept of false consciousness, literally meaning, what the voters do is meaningless because they don't know what they are doing.

Every elected Democrat, and many elected Republicans, believe this deeply. As long as they do, and as long as a little less than half of the Americans oppose them, there cannot be peace.

18 posted on 05/20/2017 8:06:51 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Jim Noble

Right. The immediate undermining of the election result - which started the night of - was that the election was tainted, that Russians had co-opted our democracy, and trump was not our legitimate president.

This wasn’t the ranting of some far left kooks or hardcore die hards; it was the party line coming from the DNC and Podesta. The election had ‘been hacked.’

Completely irresponsible creating such potential chaos, but it has continued non stop. To the Left there is only power and nothing else. However it is acquired doesn’t matter. Elections, manipulation, the end of a gun are all equally legitimate means.

Now, as you said, half the country is wanting to impeach Trump. It could have been Russia or they could have found another reason. Only matters that he must go.

Leftists create ‘The Narrative.’ The Narrative is their party line spin. Remember, to the Left there’s no “Truth” - capital T - there’s only a multiplicity of viewpoints and realities and the dominate (white male privileged class) oppresses minorities and women by forcing ‘Truth’ upon them. There’s no true or false; only spin. That’s the essence of deconstructionism (Derida, et al) and from Marxism.

Only stories that fit The Narrative are reported. Stories about poor dads getting kicked out of the country because they don’t have their ‘papers’ in order = news. Illegal alien with his eighth DWI killing a teenager on her way to school = not news. Or “local news only.” Local news is only for items that don’t fit the narrative.

The MSM has entered into complete PRAVDA territory with Trump. The Washington Post or New York Times reports a story based on ‘sources’ or secret memos. That’s enough to create a story. Then that story is reported on by the other media who reference back to WaPo or NYT, as if they’re a news source. No verification, no actual reporting. Then our side is asked to prove a negative - prove that something didn’t happen.

Thanks again for your comments in this thread. Great points!


19 posted on 05/20/2017 8:50:09 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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