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Icon A5 Amphibious Plane Crashes, Killing 2 Company Engineers
Popular Mechanics via Yahoo ^ | May 9, 2017 | Andrew Moseman

Posted on 05/11/2017 12:17:01 PM PDT by DFG

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1 posted on 05/11/2017 12:17:01 PM PDT by DFG
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“Karkow built the plane to be remarkably foolproof and user-friendly, with the design resistant to spins and stalls.”

Not working as advertised.


2 posted on 05/11/2017 12:19:26 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Poor demoncrats haven't been this mad, since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: DFG

Flying boat = marginal airplane and really crappy boat.


3 posted on 05/11/2017 12:22:20 PM PDT by Deek
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It is an airplane. There will always be an inherent risk of an accident, no matter how well it is engineered, built, maintained, and operated.


4 posted on 05/11/2017 12:34:06 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: carriage_hill

I met him at a demonstration. What a shame. The plane is actually full of safety features, and I want one really bad.


5 posted on 05/11/2017 12:36:57 PM PDT by Celerity
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Those who flew the PBY-5 “Catalina” and the PBM “Mariner” might not agree with you.


6 posted on 05/11/2017 12:44:10 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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Sorry to hear this bad news. Terrible...

I always found this to be a great intriguing little aircraft.

When it came to it’s appeal it was a great. When it came to practicality, it seemed to me to have less than a broad functioning capability.

I like seeing new ideas out there. This seemed like a great little niche aircraft.

I’d like to see it survive. The public will decide.


7 posted on 05/11/2017 12:44:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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Sad. Both lead engineers in the plane....probably testing a design/mechanical modification. I’ll bet that’s the case and some mechanic has an extra lock pin in his tool box or other hardware that he forgot to put in place. Or over torqued something....who knows.

The NTSB will verify it.

God bless the grieving families and friends of these great guys.

KNW


8 posted on 05/11/2017 12:46:19 PM PDT by know.your.why
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So that we have an image of what is being discussed. Beautiful appearing airplane, but, as already mentioned, an amphibious airplane is always something of a compromise.


9 posted on 05/11/2017 1:07:51 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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It looks like the Lake Buccaneer, which has been flying for 40+ years. I don’t see why the aircraft was considered cutting edge.


10 posted on 05/11/2017 1:07:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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It looks like the Lake Buccaneer, which has been flying for 40+ years. I don’t see why the aircraft was considered cutting edge.

It's in the "Light Sport" category that could make it "cutting edge."

11 posted on 05/11/2017 1:29:07 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my son!)
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200K only buys a tight squeeze for 2 now?

That's sad.

12 posted on 05/11/2017 1:51:42 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Another story was posted on AVWeb.

A5 Maneuvering Low-Level Prior to Crash

Peter Knudson, public affairs officer with the NTSB, told AVweb that a witness saw the aircraft flying 30-50 feet above the water. The plane then turned into a cove, applied full power, pitched up and rolled to the left. The aircraft went out of the witness’ line of sight shortly before impact with the terrain. The NTSB confirmed for AVweb that there was no post-crash fire. The second victim, Cagri Sever, was a new employee of the company on board as a passenger for an introductory flight.

Karkow was flying on the south side of Lake Berryessa in an area that was off-limits for take-off and landing of seaplanes according to Max Trescott, host of the Aviation News Talk podcast and a local flight instructor of amphibious aircraft. According to the NTSB, the area has a maximum speed limit for boats of 5 MPH, but Knudson noted that “they have no reason to believe the aircraft was attempting to take-off or land” immediately prior to the accident.

13 posted on 05/11/2017 1:55:23 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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The ICON A5 that crashed on Monday morning killing two company employees, including the highly-respected aerodynamics engineer and test pilot Jon Karkow, was seen maneuvering low-level at cruising speeds seconds before the accident.

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The NTSB crash database is packed full of fatal incidents like this.


14 posted on 05/11/2017 2:02:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Using a high-mounted pusher prop, when power is applied, the nose drops, not rises.


15 posted on 05/11/2017 2:42:45 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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Let’s wait for the report before jumping to conclusions.

I am shocked and saddened by this.


16 posted on 05/11/2017 3:02:07 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: NorthMountain

I always liked the Grumman Goose.


17 posted on 05/11/2017 3:32:46 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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18 posted on 05/11/2017 3:34:19 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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Test pilot Karkow

19 posted on 05/11/2017 3:46:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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Bfl


20 posted on 05/11/2017 8:07:38 PM PDT by pigsmith
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