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The ‘Right’ to Health Care
National Review ^ | 05/07/2017 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 05/07/2017 8:22:27 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: HiTech RedNeck

We had the rule of law in our Constitution and it was the best ever written. However it was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. I don’t think we survive as a free society unless we adhere to those principles. No amount of government can replace it. But government must not usurp it either.

How is leaving people alone and not forcing them to serve others a prescription for anarchy? We have a Constitution that should be acceptable to all and that is almost what it proscribes except for a handful of things most of which restrict the government. I still certain that even with out governemt involvement in trade, healthcare, and retirement Americans will be fine and we will take care of own via family, church, and community.


21 posted on 05/07/2017 10:05:48 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ForYourChildren

What is the WHCA? Anyway, I would agree that there is some right to health care. Seems to me that would come with the right to life. Would you really have people “die in the street”, turned away by hospitals and EMTs due to inability to pay? I like the concept of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” - in that order. Liberty is secondary only to the right to life.

What Americans should acknowledge, however, is that “insurance” should not cover pre-existing conditions and that the higher risk people should be charged more. Until this recent debate, I had never heard of those aged 55-64 being referred to as “elderly”.


22 posted on 05/07/2017 10:25:38 PM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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The ACA crusade has compromised my family’s access to health care. It would cost me $25k/year for the plan I had before for $15k/year. I’m obviously now paying for another family’s insurance in addition to my own.

Obamacare has been #ing Hell.


23 posted on 05/07/2017 10:35:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fhayek
In my view, there can never be a ‘right’ that revolves around one person sticking his hand in another persons pocket. No one should have a ‘right’ to another person’s money.

Walter Williams often had a similar comment when hosting for Limbaugh. A right is something two people can exercise without diminishing or infringing on the other party. Williams' broader definition can be narrowed to the economic case you cite.

24 posted on 05/07/2017 10:35:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Ayn Rand spoke of an old Spanish Proverb, “Take what you want, and pay for it”. She called it the Trader principle in another context. The opposite is hand over your wealth to help the poor or here comes the government to pick your pocket in the name of the poor or the latest Madison Ave. stroke of genius—sacrifice your own life, liberty and property to save the earth.

“What fools we mortals be”!


25 posted on 05/08/2017 12:22:26 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Gummint do one thing exceptionally well. Kill people.


26 posted on 05/08/2017 3:04:11 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Which is exactly what He meant when He said, “...you could make that mountain fly away...”


27 posted on 05/08/2017 3:05:28 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: The Westerner

I heard Pleikoff speak on this topic almost 30 years ago. It may have been the catalyst that turned me conservative.


28 posted on 05/08/2017 3:11:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Rainier1789

Wow. You would agree that folks have “some right to healthcare”? A Freeper wrote that? OK. Beam me up Scotty. I been down here too long.


29 posted on 05/08/2017 3:23:36 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Rainier1789
Anyway, I would agree that there is some right to health care. Seems to me that would come with the right to life. Would you really have people “die in the street”, turned away by hospitals and EMTs due to inability to pay?

Given your logic, people also gave a "right" to food, and shelter. Since those are not cheap, they have the right to a job that pays a "living" wage.

30 posted on 05/08/2017 3:29:41 AM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Personal Responsibility
I don’t get it either. The government does nothing well. Why in the WORLD would anyone want them in charge of healthcare???

Bingo! Game. Set. Match.

31 posted on 05/08/2017 3:34:44 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Rainier1789
I would agree that there is some right to health care. Seems to me that would come with the right to life. Would you really have people “die in the street”, turned away by hospitals and EMTs due to inability to pay?

Your "rights" stop where the fruits of my labor (read that: my wallet) begins.

You're advocating socialism. Sure FR is the right place for you?

32 posted on 05/08/2017 3:37:04 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ForYourChildren

What does Roberts/Obama/Romney/Hillary say? /s


33 posted on 05/08/2017 4:49:25 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Wow, eight hours since your post and the "I PAID IN!!! THE GOVERNMENT PROMISED ME!!!" crowd has not shown up to chew you out.

They must have malware on their computers and are waiting for the grandkids to come over and "fix this darn thing".

34 posted on 05/08/2017 5:10:47 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Rainier1789
Would you really have people “die in the street”, turned away by hospitals and EMTs due to inability to pay?

Are you okay with the cost of that being passed along to you in the hospital bill that you and your insurance company pay??

35 posted on 05/08/2017 5:13:10 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: usconservative
You're advocating socialism. Sure FR is the right place for you?

By that logic, so is President Trump, who has promised to "cover everybody".

36 posted on 05/08/2017 5:14:50 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

That’s because Trump isn’t a Conservative. He did vote for and support leftist democrats in the past.


37 posted on 05/08/2017 5:19:41 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: ForYourChildren

“I have never understood why it is ‘greed’ to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else’s money.” Thomas Stowell

Boy, do I detest Liberals!


38 posted on 05/08/2017 5:59:10 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: Home of the Free because of the Brave)
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To: ForYourChildren

For later....


39 posted on 05/08/2017 6:06:15 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: fhayek
In my view, there can never be a ‘right’ that revolves around one person sticking his hand in another persons pocket.

I agree, 100%. We should eliminate income taxes entirely. If not, then I want 100% of my medical expenses to be 100% tax deductible.

40 posted on 05/08/2017 6:24:52 AM PDT by Malsua
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