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Florida changes 'Stand Your Ground' onus on prosecutor now
Florida Politics ^ | 05/05/2017 | Jim Rosica

Posted on 05/06/2017 6:58:16 AM PDT by rstrahan

The legislature of Florida, following numerous complaints of over-zealous prosecutors, has changed the controversial 'Stand Your Ground' law. Now, instead of an individual having to prove he had the right to use force in self-defense, the prosecution now has the burden of proof that the individual DIDN'T have the right of self-defense. Going to the governor's desk, expected to be signed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; florida; selfdefensefirearms
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Yep. They are telling a story now, of how Travyon dreamed of being a pilot. Who knew???”

Yeh,Right ! Someone heard him say “he was flying high” and zap! He wanted to be a pilot....


21 posted on 05/06/2017 9:50:26 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: headstamp 2

“I’m hearing St. Trayvon got a posthumous degree from some college now.”

Still ain’t gonna get him a job.


22 posted on 05/06/2017 10:13:43 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: headstamp 2
I’m hearing St. Trayvon got a posthumous degree from some college now.

What next, a posthumous Nobel Prize?

23 posted on 05/06/2017 10:20:20 AM PDT by varon (There's always room for one more on the hanging tree.....)
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To: Mr. Douglas

After the Trayvon Martin fiasco (I realize they never used the “Stand Your Ground” defense) It helps keep Judges in line by zooming in on a specific area to keep their personal opinions and public pressure out of the courtroom.


24 posted on 05/06/2017 10:21:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Some terms just need to be spelled out and handled in a different way for the libidiots!


25 posted on 05/06/2017 10:28:26 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: varon

“He was just turning his life around”


26 posted on 05/06/2017 10:45:53 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: rstrahan; eyeamok; Mr. Douglas; Sasparilla

I seem to always be dealing with a prejudice against lawyers. I have this preconceived notion that they spend three years in classes learning how to distort and ignore our Constitution and English Common Law. Every time I think I am being released from this affection, I encounter an article like this and spiral downward again.


27 posted on 05/06/2017 10:57:08 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: rstrahan

Winning!


28 posted on 05/06/2017 11:06:02 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If the Son has been shining down on you all day it doesn’t matter so much if the sun has been beating down on you all day.


29 posted on 05/06/2017 11:08:04 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: TexasGator

The burden on the prosecutor instead of the defendant is a huge change. You are going from a disadvantaged starting point of having to prove you are not guilty, versus you starting from an assumed position of innocence, and the prosecutor having to prove you are guilty.


30 posted on 05/06/2017 11:24:52 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This has no impact on the trial. It only impacts pre-trial hearing.


31 posted on 05/06/2017 1:17:08 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Okay, but if they cannot prove it, it may mean they do not go to trial in the first place, and waste pubic funds prosecuting a case they lose. They generally dont go to trial with cases they have a real risk of losing.


32 posted on 05/06/2017 3:36:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: eyeamok

+ 1


33 posted on 05/06/2017 6:33:48 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Rurudyne

The red neck is a sign of honor.


34 posted on 05/06/2017 8:36:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TexasGator

http://imgur.com/sm3NDmn


35 posted on 05/06/2017 8:39:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This stream of quibbly belittlement from the gator is strange.

http://imgur.com/sm3NDmn


36 posted on 05/06/2017 8:41:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And somebody needs to explain how this would not carry over into what the jury (if that kind of trial) is expected to determine. “Did the state show something” is different from did the defendant fail to show something.


37 posted on 05/07/2017 6:42:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

All i know is its better to start out with a presumption of innocent until proven guilty, instead of assumed guilty and forced to prove innocence.


38 posted on 05/07/2017 8:01:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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