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Now It's Delta’s turn: We’re sorry for threatening our customer with jail on overbooked flight
Hotair ^ | 05/05/2017 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/05/2017 8:01:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: AndyJackson

The LAST thing we need is the government deciding what is good service.

And someone with the name ANDY Jackson should know better.

Let the market work. Good service, and fair prices will win out over all. If I were any other airline I would be changing my policies and advertising the crap out of it.


41 posted on 05/05/2017 11:23:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: BlackbirdSST

“I think these employees need to be better trained and be tested on policies.

Why? They have the best employees Unions can buy!”

The only Delta employees who are unionized are the pilots and the flight dispatchers.


42 posted on 05/05/2017 11:28:42 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Rusty0604

Or better yet, have the policies available for you to read before you get to the airport. And then you can whip them out and show the employees.

As someone who has been a “customer service professional” for nearly four decades, I can tell you the problem isn’t training...the problem is that the policies are such that employees will lie, or pretend to not know the answer to avoid the “fight” with the customer.

Often times a policy might be ignored by most people because it doesn’t hurt anyone or it doesn’t matter. Then it becomes an unwritten rule; and then an unofficial policy. And that works well until someone new comes in who is following “the rules.” That person looks like a jerk, but it doing what they were trained on.


43 posted on 05/05/2017 11:31:20 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: txrefugee
The only thing left for the airlines to do is outlaw phones! They used to be able to get away with this bullying of passengers.

Naw, there's only one thing left to do! The airlines gotta outlaw passengers!


44 posted on 05/05/2017 11:39:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: SeekAndFind

I wondered with the same question. I know a ticket in hand for one person can not be used for a different person. For national security reasons, I get that. It’s reasonable.

The problem is that the Rule protecting passengers from the wicked ones can make no exception for the innocent ones.


45 posted on 05/05/2017 12:17:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: llevrok

I understand the parents paid for the seat, but why was a passenger of different name on the ticket allowed to board? Seems like a good opening for terrorists??


Because kids under two aren’t ticketed nor do they have any ID. And they usually aren’t terrorists.


46 posted on 05/05/2017 12:26:40 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Rome2000

Don’t see how 2500 pounds makes that much of a difference,


If it upsets the center of gravity or the air temperature is climbing reducing lift, or the runway length just isn’t enough to clear those fences at the end etc etc. Many factors, but the option of a failed takeoff pinwheeling across the tarmac or the weight reduction, take the weight reduction, recalculate the CG and hold on until the acft attains V2.


47 posted on 05/05/2017 12:42:33 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Vermont Lt
The LAST thing we need is the government deciding what is good service. ...Let the market work.

What you don't get is that we have regulated deregulation. So the government has already decided that bad service is ok and there is nothing you can do about it. Part of deregulation is that the airlines can deny you boarding and don't owe you squat for it, other than to get you to your destination, eventually.

I am all for free markets, but under FAA regulations there isn't one, and the conditions for a free market don't exist - market dominated by an oligopoly, high barriers to entry, lots of externalities, and huge information asymmetries.

Fly to Dallas enroute to a meeting in Denver, have your flight cancelled, to Denver, overnight in Dallas [hotel, meals, and taxis], and then return home because you missed your meeting, the airline owes you nothing. That is regulated deregulation.

48 posted on 05/05/2017 1:22:13 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Rome2000
American has crappy airplanes that they just announced they are making worse by squeezing the seats closer together. Their frequent flyer program is arguably the worst in the world now and getting worse annually. I NEVER get an upgrade, NEVER can use miles for anything and with six round trips from Philly to LAX this year I still haven't earned their lowest tier of status yet because they changed it from miles flow to dollar spent so it's virtually impossible to get high levels of status unless you fly first class to Europe a lot . The only benefit... the only one... I get from my previously obtained low level status is getting to board early enough to fit my carryon item into a bin. And that's because their baggage fees are so ridiculously high that nobody bothers to even try doing checked bags anymore and after zone 5 or so my bag (which includes a laptop and medicine!) would be taken off the plan and put through the baggage handling system.

I just can't stand them. On rare occasions when I can fly anything else, I feel like "oh wow, how wonderful. Who knew flying didn't have to be a soul crushing experience?"

49 posted on 05/05/2017 1:42:19 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: llevrok
I understand the parents paid for the seat, but why was a passenger of different name on the ticket allowed to board? Seems like a good opening for terrorists??

Probably because most infants don't (yet) have to carry ID.

50 posted on 05/05/2017 1:49:52 PM PDT by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I used to get to Gold based on segments flown (15 non stop round trips= 30 segments).

At an average fair of $325, that’s about 5 grand.

15 Round trips on Spirit the same route at about $79 is about $1,200, a $3,800 savings.

I fly alone with a small bag that doesn’t cost extra.

With American, even if you get upgraded to First there’s no food unless the flight is over 2 hours, my route is an hour and fifty minutes, so I’m not paying almost 4 grand more for some pretzels.

To top it off, I have about 20 upgrade certificates that these scumbags won’t let me use now because I’m not a Gold!.


51 posted on 05/05/2017 2:27:05 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Rome2000

I have something like 16 upgrade certificates BUT you can’t use them. You have to submit to some list and I have never gotten above 29 on that list of requests, even when I’ve requested it over a week in advance. Something like two people get put into first and several times I’ve seen them take off with empty seats in first even though there were 30 people waiting in the upgrade list (they now show it on a big TV screen). Basically upgrades are 100% useless as is their entire frequent flyer program. The industry’s worst.


52 posted on 05/05/2017 4:22:56 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: Rome2000

It is important for landing that they not have too much fuel. Therefore they need to start out with less. I have been in plenty of flights where they had too much fuel. They just pull over on the tarmac and burn it off. 2500 lbs though is a lot of fuel.


53 posted on 05/05/2017 4:35:31 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: pepsi_junkie

Yeah I’ve been a gold or platinum for the last 8 Years, but unless you have that status they treat you like a douchebag.

You can use the certificates if your are Gold or above, if not they don’t want to know your name, no customer service, good luck trying to get them on the phone, 25 minutes to talk to a rep.


54 posted on 05/05/2017 8:22:27 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Spirit would rather kick nine people off the plane then waste 3000 bucks.


55 posted on 05/05/2017 8:24:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: redcatcherb412

Yes the pilot came on the intercom with a very detailed explanation but unfortunately the intercom wasn’t working very well and we only got every

Haven’t heard an intercom that bad since I used to ride the A train in the mid 80’s


56 posted on 05/05/2017 8:29:41 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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