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Republicans eat another 'crap sandwich'
Washington Times ^ | 4 May 2017 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/05/2017 7:24:38 AM PDT by Rockitz

Congratulations, House Republicans. You just passed the second-worst socialized medicine bill in American history.

And, if it passes the U.S. Senate, you will own the disaster formerly known as Obamacare — just in time for the 2018 elections.

It will be called “Trumpcare” or “Ryancare” or GOPcare.” And it will still be government-run health care brought to you by the experts at the U.S. Postal Service and Veterans Affairs Department.

To be sure, there are some great aspects of this bill. It makes Obamacare less terrible. It includes Medicare reforms that will save innocent taxpayers and our grandchildren many billions of dollars over future years.

That one part of GOPcare is the first decent thing Congress will have accomplished in the past decade (other than confirming Justice Neil M. Gorsuch).

But will it be worth it?

After all, Republicans have just finally conceded the entire argument against socialized medicine in America. They have officially retreated from the belief that liberty, self-governance and free markets are ultimately the best way to provide the most people with the best health care.

By supporting government-run health care — even if it is a little less government-run than Obamacare — Republicans have, in fact, endorsed government-rationed health care. Remember those evil death panels we used to all be opposed to?

Well, now you are the death panels.

What about politically? Will it be worth the carnage at the polls?

With this, Republicans give up all claims to campaign against Democrats for foisting disastrous Obamacare on the American people.

As usual these days, it was President Trump who had the sharpest and most farsighted political instincts on the whole matter when he said Republicans would be better off just letting Obamacare collapse of its own weight.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 115th; aca; ahca; healthcare; notrepeal; obamacare2; obamacarelite; repealandreplace; rinocare; speakerryan; trumpcare
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This reminds me of Bryan Cranston's quote from Argo, "This IS the best bad idea we have..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6H454-u4yI

This is certainly not going to get any better as it goes through the senate. God help us!

1 posted on 05/05/2017 7:24:38 AM PDT by Rockitz
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To: Rockitz
Maybe Hurt should listen to this discussion of the GOP bill
2 posted on 05/05/2017 7:26:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Rockitz

Well, at least they added lettuce and tomato..........


3 posted on 05/05/2017 7:26:57 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Rockitz

It’s now called RINOCare (also: Obamacare Lite)
and they ALL need to be primaried!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 05/05/2017 7:26:57 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: Rockitz

False dichotomy... this isn’t a one-and-done. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, but if the person taking that step had to face an overwhelming hue and cry that it wasn’t equal to the journey, the person never would even do that.

The perfect can be the enemy of the good, or even the better.


5 posted on 05/05/2017 7:27:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Rockitz

My head spins reading conservative commentary on this bill. Like this one, some conservatives say it’s a disaster - only slightly better than ObamaCare, others say that it’s a significant first-step victory; a positive, incremental change toward free markets.


6 posted on 05/05/2017 7:30:54 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Lol!!!


7 posted on 05/05/2017 7:31:05 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: Rockitz

Stupid article.


8 posted on 05/05/2017 7:31:56 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

We have the classic pessimist-vs-optimist contrast here. Did Congress fill the glass a little, or did it leave so much of the glass empty?


9 posted on 05/05/2017 7:33:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That has been my thinking on this too. We were never going to get an immediate, flat out repeal. Even if it could be done, America doesn’t want it. Conservatives may not want to hear it, but parts of Obamacare are popular. If Congress just repealed the pre-existing condition provisions, people would vote them out. If they flat out repealed everything, it would take a while for it to work through the market and people would be left with sky high premiums and no benefits. Its going to take a little time and several bills to unwind this monstrosity.

This also may be the entrée for entitlement reform. Gradually get rid of Medicaid and Medicare and replace it with something that lets people — including senior citizens — buy their own day-to-day medical coverage at unsubsidized market rates but protects them from catastrophic conditions. That would be a very good result from this whole mess.


10 posted on 05/05/2017 7:35:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Rockitz

need a PR offensive the likes of which has never been seen. gottta get out in front of this sucker, or it could be spun into a midterm disaster.

aca was going to collapse, and take everyone that had been ensnared in it’s trap with it. people would have died in the streets like dogs. the coverage was next to useless in the first place; you have to travel for hours to find a doctor in your network. waitlisting was appearing. we avoided the employer mandate altogether (which would have devastated the SMBs all over the country), and we prevented to formation of the ipab, aka sarah palin’s death panels. the obamites canceled 10 million people’s individual healthcare policies in order to force them into the substandard coverage in the crappy exchanges.

& etc. if we get steamrolled on this, it’s our own fault.


11 posted on 05/05/2017 7:35:08 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Rockitz

This is just the next step toward single payer which is a couple of years down the road.


12 posted on 05/05/2017 7:35:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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"As usual these days, it was President Trump who had the sharpest and most farsighted political instincts on the whole matter when he said Republicans would be better off just letting Obamacare collapse of its own weight."

Although probably not politically feasible, this was the best idea. And it most likely would have only taken another year.

13 posted on 05/05/2017 7:36:57 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

For a long time I suspected much of America wouldn’t even be ready for a complete free market solution this quick. We have a patient that has to convalesce, not an aspirin to pop and all is well.


14 posted on 05/05/2017 7:37:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: circlecity

We’d still be left with the question of what to put in its place.


15 posted on 05/05/2017 7:37:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hope you’re right.


16 posted on 05/05/2017 7:39:09 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"We’d still be left with the question of what to put in its place."

Yeah, but the possible fallout over whatever we did put in its place would be very muted. It would be a matter of "we had to do something" rather than "they dismantled Obamacare and look what happened".

17 posted on 05/05/2017 7:41:00 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

That was the quote of the article for me. With the GOP set to pick up seats in the senate in 2018, why wouldn’t you wait this one out?


18 posted on 05/05/2017 7:41:05 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; HiTech RedNeck

Thanks for your commentary, it makes sense and gives me hope. Obviously, we need to keep the GOP’s feet to the fire to ultimately see things through.


19 posted on 05/05/2017 7:41:44 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Rockitz

One may think that if they were completely clueless as to how the process works with the House passing a bill, the Senate also doing so and then the reconciliation process going forward before the bill goes to the President.

Anyone see the list of taxes this bill would get rid of?

Charles doesn’t seem to give a f*** about that. Let you eat cake mofo’s. The hell with you peons says Mr. Hurt.

Hey Charles, sit the f*** down.


20 posted on 05/05/2017 7:41:51 AM PDT by Snowybear
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